ShortScale Forum Index www.shortscale.org
Head 'n Neck Above
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 
UploaderUploader   ShortScale WikiBuilder

Lets talk strat trems scaliens.

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    ShortScale Forum Index -> All Other Guitars
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Rhysyrhys
The Kraken


Joined: 02 Nov 2009
Posts: 2920
Location: San Francisco

PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 9:52 pm    Post subject: Lets talk strat trems scaliens. Reply with quote

I have a yamaha pacifica that I adore and is going to get a bit of restoration love as soon as I can get round to it. Nothing too spesh, just a few new pickups, pots pickguard and straplocks.

At the same time, it occurred to me that I have had the trem blocked ever since I threw the guitar against the wall mid gig (rawk and fucking roll, I know...) with the whammy bar screw in. Most of the whammy bar apart from the thread snapped off and I've had to keep it blocked since because theres no point not blocking it off.

My question: would I have to replace the whole kaboodle to get the trem back working or just the block? I'm guessing it would just be the block right? I know it would just take me to have a quick look, but I'm a few hundred miles away at the moment looking after the old dear, as she's just had a hip replacement.
_________________
hotrodperlmutter wrote:
you is/are stupid/uninformed/shortsighted on rhysyrhys.


You'll cowards don't even smoke krack.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
George
.
.


Joined: 03 Jul 2009
Posts: 20370
Location: UK

PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just the block I would wager. However, finding one that lines up with the bridge plate in all the right ways including trem arm hole could be dicey unless you know of one that drops in. Fender/Squier ones are varied enough with different trem arm threads as well but with whole bridge assemblies being so cheap from GFS I'd probably just do that using the spacing between body screws as a guide.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
cur
.
.


Joined: 18 Jan 2009
Posts: 7291

PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are saying that the bar snapped off at the screw in part? Use a screw extractor and get the piece out.
_________________

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Ankhanu
.
.


Joined: 10 Nov 2009
Posts: 2887
Location: Nova Scotia

PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cur wrote:
You are saying that the bar snapped off at the screw in part? Use a screw extractor and get the piece out.

+1

Unless, of course, you just want an excuse for an upgrade Wink
_________________
ekwatts wrote:
That's American cinema, that is. Fucking sparkles.


Donate to Ankhanu Press
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
Rhysyrhys
The Kraken


Joined: 02 Nov 2009
Posts: 2920
Location: San Francisco

PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

George wrote:
Just the block I would wager. However, finding one that lines up with the bridge plate in all the right ways including trem arm hole could be dicey unless you know of one that drops in. Fender/Squier ones are varied enough with different trem arm threads as well but with whole bridge assemblies being so cheap from GFS I'd probably just do that using the spacing between body screws as a guide.


Cheers man, I hadn't even thought about that. I'm guessing that this is a silly ass question but I'm guessing not all assemblies are born equal, I'm looking for string spacing as my measure of whether it will be right or not oui?
_________________
hotrodperlmutter wrote:
you is/are stupid/uninformed/shortsighted on rhysyrhys.


You'll cowards don't even smoke krack.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ekwatts
A series of tubes


Joined: 18 Apr 2006
Posts: 22215
Location: Bongchester

PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems that most guitar parts over the last decade have become pretty standardised so swaps are now pretty easy. But trem blocks might be a bit harder to match up exactly... then again, I'm sure it would only be by a few millimetres, and the actual bridge plate could potentially tolerate that as it would necessarily have to be a few mm wider than the screw hole underneath. Maybe?

I'd say get yourself a fancy new whizzbang bridge anyway, for kicks. Why not? It's nice to upgrade.
_________________


Brandon W wrote:
you elites.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
George
.
.


Joined: 03 Jul 2009
Posts: 20370
Location: UK

PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rhysyrhys wrote:
George wrote:
Just the block I would wager. However, finding one that lines up with the bridge plate in all the right ways including trem arm hole could be dicey unless you know of one that drops in. Fender/Squier ones are varied enough with different trem arm threads as well but with whole bridge assemblies being so cheap from GFS I'd probably just do that using the spacing between body screws as a guide.


Cheers man, I hadn't even thought about that. I'm guessing that this is a silly ass question but I'm guessing not all assemblies are born equal, I'm looking for string spacing as my measure of whether it will be right or not oui?


Yeah, there are a few differences to consider if you are just buying the block. But for a whole assembly if the 6 holes that make contact with wood line up correctly with the body you'll be fine (this will be the same as the string spacing). You can keep your original saddles as well if you prefer the feel of them over the rolled gfs set afterall.

This thread says they had success matching just the 10.5mm import block to the original bridge plate of a 112 - problem was the trem hole was in the wrong place:

http://acapella.harmony-central.com/archive/index.php/t-2566802.html

Therefore the whole import spaced assembly should drop in nicely as string spacing is right, and trem arm hole will be matched up as standard.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
onedaycloser
.
.


Joined: 15 Jun 2010
Posts: 120
Location: Wv, USA.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take the block off of the base plate first. There may be enough of the old bar there to get vice grips to clamp and unscrew it out.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website AIM Address
Gabriel
.
.


Joined: 11 Apr 2010
Posts: 3141
Location: NYC

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it were my guitar I'd get myself this:


http://www.guitarfetish.com/105mm-Chrome-Spaced-Import-Made-in-Mexico-BRASS-BLOCK_p_1158.html

And then these:


http://www.guitarfetish.com/Upgrade-Stainless-Steel-Saddles-Fits-Trems-Set-of-Six_p_773.html
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
George
.
.


Joined: 03 Jul 2009
Posts: 20370
Location: UK

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've tried a brass block in two separate strats and they're awful in my experience. They sound duller and give out less sustain and resonance than the stock zinc block - totally sucked the life out of them. Steel all the way.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
willlin
.
.


Joined: 23 Sep 2009
Posts: 494
Location: The Not So Grim/ Sunny South(ampton)

PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm surprised by that actually. Dave swapped out the old MIM trem block on my strat for the GFS brass block. Admittedly, I haven't tried it out back to back with a steel block, but I'm pleased with how it sounds. I'd definately recommend the GFS trem kit, and the steel blok saddles too.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    ShortScale Forum Index -> All Other Guitars All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

Anti Bot Question MOD - phpBB MOD against Spam Bots
Blocked registrations / posts: 631327 / 0

Guitars at Musician's Friend

Help support this site by clicking the above link!