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Mission Impossible: Assembling a Bronco trem from parts
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it looks like the two point strat screws would work, tho... im just going by pictures, not having dimensions or something in front of me
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found some G &L Dual Fulcrum Vibrato Sockets. Looks similar but without the cone top of the original Bronco.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cooterfinger wrote:



Here is my Bronco spring next to an America Jazzmaster tremolo. How wide (diameter) and tall is the Bronco Spring retainer?


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote









I had an Allparts jag trem spring and retainer. The one you have looks closer to the right size.

Let me know if you try one of the G &L Dual Fulcrum Vibrato Sockets. If it works I need to order one.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for pulling it apart and Measuring it. I am going to copy all this info into my Evernote for future reference.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got the top plate in the mail. The top plate itself is in good condition. All of the saddles are bent to crap. One is on the verge of breaking. I looked at the saddles on my Bronco guitar and they are nice and straight. I doubt any of them are salvageable.

I need to make a parts list and see what I can acquire at the hardware store and see where I am at that point.




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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have everything else you need for a Bronco? Fender should keep making parts, even if there's not a reissue. It's a constant revenue stream,even if it takes away from selling whole guitars.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just have the bridge parts right now. I didn't' want to invest in a everything else unless I had a working bridge.

I would either buy a vintage body, make one or have Cooter make one since he has the template.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

taylornutt wrote:
I just have the bridge parts right now. I didn't' want to invest in a everything else unless I had a working bridge.

I would either buy a vintage body, make one or have Cooter make one since he has the template.


The ones Cooter made with contours look better than the originals.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got some Fender Bronco Saddles and parts from Cooter. I will take new pics later tonight and see what I still need to find.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice. Whatever you do, don't toss the wrecked saddles.

I have been doing the opposite, which is build a Bronco without the bridge. This weekend I almost finished it. Instead of the makeshift pickguard piece, I ordered a Mustang bridge plate. I can already tell I will like it. The Bigsby looks great.

I traced the plates to give to the guy on OSG who makes plates. The same thing could be done with a Bronco flat plate with string catch holes in it, with the strings going up to either a Mustang or TOM bridge. This could be easily reversible, except that Mustang thimbles are spaced differently.

Also I compared with a Strat saddle and although thicker, they were pretty darn close.



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bigsby is like rape on vintage guitars

its a cancer like put floyd or kahler on vintage stuff.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will totally not throw anything out.

I measured the saddle heights and they were 3/16", 4/16" (1/4"), 5/16"

The six saddles from cooterfinger are the 1/4" ones. I still need two 3/16" saddles (E strings) and two 5/16" saddles (D and G strings)

The saddles that came on my top plate are all bent below their original heights and two are cracked. The saddle for the D String measured at 1/4" which means it's actually the wrong saddle. So it looks like someone didn't have all the saddles and tried to bend them down to make it work.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Breaking News: Jim_Nowhere is sending me a Trem arm and trem arm collet he acquired a while back. Those are both impossible to find. He's a true class act.

Here are the parts I have now:

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Parts list:


What I still need:
4 saddles
Spring retention cone ?
Spring rention screw collar
7 base plate mounting screws
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Getting closer! The anticipation. It's a shame these are so hard to find. Bronco bodies pop up on the bay so often for dirt cheap but it's pointless without a trem.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

holy shit, that puzzle is harder to figure out than vagina
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Punkacc9 wrote:
Getting closer! The anticipation. It's a shame these are so hard to find. Bronco bodies pop up on the bay so often for dirt cheap but it's pointless without a trem.


If I could complete this tremolo. I would love to look into what it would cost to make more.

I would love to make a Jazzmaster or Jaguar with a Bronco tremolo.
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iCEByTes wrote:
Bigsby is like rape on vintage guitars

its a cancer like put floyd or kahler on vintage stuff.


Except its not because it's just a few screw holes versus a route, and there's more Bronco bodies to go around than there are working stock bridge assemblies for them.

Guitar had Bigsby: has "bite marks"
Guitar had Floyd: has Floyd
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

taylornutt wrote:

I would love to make a Jazzmaster or Jaguar with a Bronco tremolo.


Put it on a Maverick!
The larger baseplate would eliminate the (IMO) unsightly gap between trem and pickguard.

I know it says 'Custom', but still...
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