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Gretsch Country Gentleman 1970

 
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 1:21 pm    Post subject: Gretsch Country Gentleman 1970 Reply with quote

Been looking for a vintage Gretsch for ages, found a nice Gentleman on the 'Italian craigslist' mercatinomusicale.



Gretsch Country Gentleman

Would maybe need to sell my acoustic to have enough cash for it, but I'm playing acoustic guitar quite rarely nowadays.
What do you guys think?
Anybody here have experience with old Gretsches? I played a RI Country Gentleman, loved the sound, but these Japan RIs are more expensive than some of the vintage ones.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I've heard they're not that bad. I'd go for it.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had the privilege of playing 50'some era country gent several years back. Not for very long, mind you... just strummed a few chords unplugged. I remember it sounding nice but feeling wonderful. Of course, that could have just been cos the thing was worth more than my car.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of 1970's Gretsches are okay, although Baldwin took designs and updates of 1960's models in kinda weird directions.

The original "Blacktop" pickups are a bit honky/aggressive to my ears and lack some of the chiming sweetness I'd associate with G6122 Gents, but if the above deal is priced alright and in good shape, then do try it out. You should especially check the binding for rot/deterioration, and run your finger all along the neck/body joint for anything funky. EDIT: I just noticed that it's on Craigslist in another country Razz

I also had possession of a friend's '66 G6120DC for several weeks and despite the charm (Don Peris' tones with Innoncence Mission on his G6120 DC are what I tried to cop) I found it to feel like it was near-ready to fall apart, with everything wanting to buzz at me and screws needing to be tightened every now and then. I loved the tone and body resonance, but by no means would want to own it. Conversely, Japanese Gretsches on both sides of the 2003 switch-over to Fender are good stuff. When they can be found on the cheap I'd say they are so much better a value, and are probably better built than the Brooklyn oldies by far. And I'll say it: a Tennessee Rose in great shape going from $1200 is not uncommon, and it has nearly all the vibe/tone of any G6120/G6122 without the burden of silly market that keeps them pricier.

A lot of us also switch out the bridges for Tru-Arc or Compton Compensated, which solve a lot of the buzzing issues and are plenty dense to increase attack and sustain in ways I only imagined. I have two Comptons in stainless steel, and my G6122-1962 totally opened up when I put in the Compton, the original bar bridge's flat angle (fulcrum?) seeming to dull out every picking note to my ears.

John Squier and Teh Harrisonz were the inspiration, but it was this very clip that sold me...And I'll post it here on ss.org until I'm blue in the face fingers, a great example of a post-FMIC acquisition G6122-1962 with all the tones, pushed through a big Fender. Very stable and clear (even when lead singer Dave Coleman plays with the "mud" switch engaged) and although you can hear in solo parts when the classic "short sustain" Gretsch personality rears it's head, the thing sounds just as it should. Great tonal contrast between bridge and neck pickups from 2:30 to the end:


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The Compton Compensated Stainless Steel bridge, 2.9" from post to post.




On my '92 Duo Jet, the buzzing I had with the original Adjust-o-matic is completely gone. This thing became my #1 with just a bridge switch, and I can get all shoegazey with the Bigsby and it stays in tune...BTW all electric guitar parts on the "Snowball" cover from the Doom compilation was all this guy: https://soundcloud.com/themajestichigh/snowball-cover





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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i know i'll end up with a gretsch someday, i just have to wait for the right one to come along.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i came close to buying a gold or black electromatic duo jet. i know electomatic is the cheaper less-mojo version but i just didn't get on with them. going from bass to treble strings just didn't seem balanced to me, and i know that's part of the sound but i don't dig it. it sounds too much like playing with flatwounds. also the neck felt uninspiring too, a little chunky and nondescript. i also can't really stand bigsbys in general. BUT i absolutely love the gretsch look, and that natural one in the OP looks fantastic
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dots wrote:
i know i'll end up with a gretsch someday, i just have to wait for the right one to come along.


A Duo Jet with good ol' Filtertrons has what it takes to rule the world, even without a midrangey set of Powertrons. Just pin the bridge and plug in, they're lightweight, necks are on the thinner side and quite effortless, and the no-nonsense 'Trons can crunch like mad with all kinds of dynamics on tap. Hope one comes your way to give a spin and suit your fancy in due time.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dots wrote:
i know i'll end up with a gretsch someday, i just have to wait for the right one to come along.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ultratwin wrote:
A Duo Jet with good ol' Filtertrons has what it takes to rule the world, even without a midrangey set of Powertrons. Just pin the bridge and plug in, they're lightweight, necks are on the thinner side and quite effortless, and the no-nonsense 'Trons can crunch like mad with all kinds of dynamics on tap.


This is 100% correct. Mine has an Adjustomatic bridge and a Bigsby and it is rock solid. You can play anything on it.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys for the responses!

I read a lot in the Gretsch forums and now I'm all insecure about buying a Vintage Gretsch, especially unseen from another country…

Unfortunately vintage Gretsches are quite rare in Austria - I'll definitely will keep on looking Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reading up on the Baldwin era because of this thread made me realise how little I knew about Gretsch's interim history, interesting reads and pics out there on the late 70s stuff.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All I know is that Robert Smith played a Country Gentleman in the mid-90s. Really cool guitar... but I'm often wary of vintage gear that I can't try first.
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