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[vojtasTS29]

Wtf... Somebody selling this http://hudebnibazar.cz/gibson-kalamazoo-kg-2a-rok-1966/ID949384/ for a really nice price on the czech used instruments website. Didn't know gibson made Cheap Japanese looking Fender Mustang Fakes

[Fakir Mustache]

They're American and too cheap to say "Gibson". They also made SG and basses in that series, 1 and 2 pickup versions, also vibrato and stop-tail.
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[speedfish]

Cool.
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[paul_]

Not a good price for the guitar itself, in my opinion; these have always been laughably bad when I've tried one in a shop, but by 1967 they shared all hardware/electronics with the SG-shaped Melody Maker. Most of their current day value actually lies in that (one of those SGs will regularly run you over $1000 on eBay regardless of condition, while the Kalamazoos regularly go for less than $400... in terms of vintage Gibson it's a fairly cost-effective restoration tactic).




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[vojtasTS29]

I think SG is the worst looking guitar ever made, but that thing with the white pickguard and covered pickups actually looks very nice Is that yours? I like that. Also thx for the interesting info

[paul_]

I don't own either of those guitars but I did recently buy a '67 SG MM like that, albeit with the paint stripped off and I had to put the hardware back to [reissue] stock from the obligatory Schaller tuners/Badass bridge that every cheapo "players" Gibson got in the '70s.

I'm sorry to hear you don't like SGs, I hope everything else is ok



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[vojtasTS29]

Ah ok Cool guitar nonetheless.
EDIT.
Didn't see the previous post or something... whatever. About me and SG... I kinda think that the classic SG pickguard, both the large and small one, especcialy in black make the guitar, along with the symetric short horbs look really extremely agressive and mean, kind of B.C. Ritchy And i don't like that. But i actually like the melody maker/kalamazoo. The white and very rounded pickguard with covered rounded pickups kinda soften out the shape. Those look kinda kool

[HNB]

Eh I like mine. Different strokes.

[vojtasTS29]

I guess everybody has a different taste in guitars. i didn't say there is anything wrong with the sg. I probably didn't yet grow into it

[HNB]

I mean my Kalamazoo. I also have an SG, but it is an Epi one. I also have an old Japanese bolt on that is SG shaped sort of. It is branded as a "Pan."

[paul_]

The "sorry you don't like SGs" thing was totally meant to be a joke. I was re-reading the whole thread sort of half paying attention and when I got to that line that I posted I went "damn kid, take it easy"
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[Fakir Mustache]

Also interesting the Kalamazoo version didn't have the carving the Gibson version did (they also made them in white and red, I just found this pic first):

I think this one is not 100% original, because the of missing extra knobs and pickup selector.
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[sunshiner]

Kalamazoo's bodies were made of MDF. I don't think it affects sound at all, but it is just one of the reasons why they cost less than $1000 today
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[speedfish]