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New Fender American Pro Jaguars / Jazzmasters
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nice that they've designed them with a neck profile that's "perfect for chord and single-note playing alike". Too often I have to switch between guitars because they're only really suitable for rhythm rather than lead.

Who is that sort of sales copy aimed at?


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The toggle switch on the Jazzmaster isn't just ugly, but stupid too.
Love the Jag. Wouldn't like the necks on either.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Pretty fucking cool.

Not any more, only the ones made in Mexico will be cool from now on.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ugh... I kind of want an Olive Jag with maple neck and go tortoise.... and a White one with maple neck.... I am a sucker for maple necks.... my wallet.... I might need to sell some guitars to make room for these.

I want to like the Jazzy, but the preliminary toggle location doesn't look too great as others have said. I wonder what the routing under the guard looks like? Maybe a new guard and a switch location move could be all there is too it.

For the bridge, I really hope they fixed the wide string spacing. I hate when a guitars strings are dancing on the neck edge. You play a chord and the high e pops off the side of the neck.. At least you could always get a different bridge installed easily. The price is also pretty nice if that MSRP stays true.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn't look like they have fixed the string spacing from the pictures we've seen so far. Production models might be different though. I'd probably put a Staytrem bridge on it were I to get one but it really would be an easy thing for Fender to fix.
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I'm just going to smash it in with a hammer and hope it works. Tone is all in the fingers anyway.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

benecol wrote:
Nice that they've designed them with a neck profile that's "perfect for chord and single-note playing alike". Too often I have to switch between guitars because they're only really suitable for rhythm rather than lead.

Who is that sort of sales copy aimed at?
the sales pitch is unnecessary, but I complain all the time about the standardization of neck profiles, which are usually too thin for my liking....this one sounds perfect, but most of everything else isn't for me...how much are these supposed to be?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Singlepup found a price:

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For me the deal breaker will prolly be cost. Are these gonna be like $1700?

EDIT: $1499 MSRP. Wonder what the street price will be. Used prices at or under $1000 in a few years?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My first thought was "neat", but for that kind of money, I think I'd just buy something else and mod it. Especially if that's not a nitro top coat on the body. I like the maple but don't like the shade of it, and it's not like it's hard to find 25.5" scale maple necks with no logo, if you're after a Jazzmaster neck.

I don't see what's so special about the bridge; it looks like it's just a Mustang bridge, except presumably with a 9.5" radius. And I don't know if the Modern Player necks are wider or what, but I have a Mustang bridge on mine, and the spacing is fine.

Upper plate on the Jag looks really silly.

Tele switch, ehhh, I'd get used to it, but I'd prefer a regular old 3-way like the JM has. JM switch location looks cool but I bet it'd be tough to use in practice.

All in all, two more Fender guitars I'll probably never own just because the cost doesn't outweigh the features in my eyes.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

when you guys are talking about "string spacing" what the fuck exactly are you talking about?


like the strings on the neck of the guitar? or like like how the saddles on the bridge aren't big enough to be flush so they rattle?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that stupid fuckin toggle is RIGHT WHERE I PLAY. right behind the neck and infront of the first switch.






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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

robroe wrote:
when you guys are talking about "string spacing" what the fuck exactly are you talking about?


like the strings on the neck of the guitar? or like like how the saddles on the bridge aren't big enough to be flush so they rattle?


This kind of deal but not caused by the nut, but the bridge saddles spreading so far that the strings end up too close to the edge of the fretboard.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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that stupid fuckin toggle is RIGHT WHERE I PLAY. right behind the neck and infront of the first switch.



Love that Strat Rob, is that a homebrew?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the body is a squier standard.

the neck is mexican fender striped and refinished by robOG

everything else on it is cobble.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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when you guys are talking about "string spacing" what the fuck exactly are you talking about?


like the strings on the neck of the guitar? or like like how the saddles on the bridge aren't big enough to be flush so they rattle?


This kind of deal but not caused by the nut, but the bridge saddles spreading so far that the strings end up too close to the edge of the fretboard.



only guitar i ever had a problem like that was the guitar we build for dots called the Dotsmaster.

except it was fine down by the nut, and by the time you got past the 12th fret, the high E string was off the fretboard completely. i just think who ever routed the holes for the bridge for it was off a mm to the south
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 2:44 am    Post subject: Re: New Fender American Pro Jaguars / Jazzmasters Reply with quote

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Fender was using g their noggin when they decided to come out with these. They clicked a lot of the right boxes and still kept them kinda unique. An olive green Jag would sound VERY cool.. Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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that stupid fuckin toggle is RIGHT WHERE I PLAY. right behind the neck and infront of the first switch.







I'm sorry but I just don't understand that - why is that where you play? I don't understand why your pick is hitting the pick guard in front of the neck. This just doesn't make much sense to me. To me, the switch is in a very easy to control spot. On my guitars that have a switch there, I find pickup switching much quicker and fluid. I like the Jazzmasters but I think the Jags might be the most sensible Jag ever made while maintaining a lot of traditional elements.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob strums somewhere most people don't. That's the way he does it, don't worry about it.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure there must be a video somewhere of Robroe strumming a guitar. Or there could be in 5 minutes from when he sees the question.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They look okay, but I prefer the original circuits more, as I use every little knob and switch the originals had to offer.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm sure there must be a video somewhere of Robroe strumming a guitar. Or there could be in 5 minutes from when he sees the question.


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