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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 5:58 am    Post subject: Experiences with Gibson Firebird HP? (NGD w photo bomb) Reply with quote

Anyone experience how Gibson's Firebird HP balances compared to their Firebird T model? I have a 2016 T and she balances perfectly, but I'm curious how moving the strap position may affect balance. I had always heard or read that Firebird's were neck heavy and prone to diving, but my experience with the T doesn't bear that out. Here's pics of where Gibson moved the upper strap button. The T model is on the left side and the HP on the right.




Seems that moving the strap button out to the upper horn and with the added weight of the G force tuning system at the headstock that it would upset the balance. No one in my area stocks these, so it's unlikely that I'll ever get the chance to find out for myself.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There wasn't an NGD thread with photobombs and technically you don't have no Firebird, so no one here is supposed to reply to your question until you fix that
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an Epiphone Firebird. I put the strap button behind the neck and it's awesome, one of my favourite guitars.

Upper horn button is for idiots: it'll pop out and the guitar will fall to the ground if you don't have strap locks, and if you do have strap locks it'll be extremely uncomfortable and unbalanced.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fakir Mustache wrote:
I have an Epiphone Firebird. I put the strap button behind the neck and it's awesome, one of my favourite guitars.

Upper horn button is for idiots: it'll pop out and the guitar will fall to the ground if you don't have strap locks, and if you do have strap locks it'll be extremely uncomfortable and unbalanced.



That's what I figured.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sunshiner wrote:
There wasn't an NGD thread with photobombs and technically you don't have no Firebird, so no one here is supposed to reply to your question until you fix that


^ this... I shall now remain silent on the subject, until you rectify your mishandling of the situation.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fakir Mustache wrote:
I have an Epiphone Firebird. I put the strap button behind the neck and it's awesome, one of my favourite guitars.

Upper horn button is for idiots: it'll pop out and the guitar will fall to the ground if you don't have strap locks, and if you do have strap locks it'll be extremely uncomfortable and unbalanced.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Fakir Mustache wrote:
I have an Epiphone Firebird. I put the strap button behind the neck and it's awesome, one of my favourite guitars.

Upper horn button is for idiots: it'll pop out and the guitar will fall to the ground if you don't have strap locks, and if you do have strap locks it'll be extremely uncomfortable and unbalanced.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JUST POST THEM PHOTOS!!!
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There is only one rule and that rule is: worthless without pics
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dezb1 wrote:
Fakir Mustache wrote:
I have an Epiphone Firebird. I put the strap button behind the neck and it's awesome, one of my favourite guitars.

Upper horn button is for idiots: it'll pop out and the guitar will fall to the ground if you don't have strap locks, and if you do have strap locks it'll be extremely uncomfortable and unbalanced.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice... this should have had its own thread.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice! I guess a good match to a Supersonic?
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dezb1 wrote:
Nice... this should have had its own thread.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 3:29 am    Post subject: Re: Experiences with Gibson Firebird HP? (NGD w photo bomb) Reply with quote

speedfish wrote:
Anyone experience how Gibson's Firebird HP balances compared to their Firebird T model? I have a 2016 T and she balances perfectly, but I'm curious how moving the strap position may affect balance. I had always heard or read that Firebird's were neck heavy and prone to diving, but my experience with the T doesn't bear that out. Here's pics of where Gibson moved the upper strap button. The T model is on the left side and the HP on the right.




Seems that moving the strap button out to the upper horn and with the added weight of the G force tuning system at the headstock that it would upset the balance. No one in my area stocks these, so it's unlikely that I'll ever get the chance to find out for myself.


Thanks,


I've played it. Typical nose heavy Gibson with a wraparound bridge. Needed a setup but it sounded decent. It was a pistachio green (couldn't call it seafoam).. Looked pretty cool. Would I buy it? Probably not. You're talking THIS,right?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sunshiner wrote:
Nice! I guess a good match to a Supersonic?


Side by side they look similar, but the Firebird is more ergonomic. I wish that the Supersonic's pickup switch was in the same position as the Firebird's. I also like the way my right arm meets the body better on the Firebird when it's hanging from the strap, but yes they do compliment one another very well.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 5:50 am    Post subject: Re: Experiences with Gibson Firebird HP? (NGD w photo bomb) Reply with quote

Rox wrote:
speedfish wrote:
Anyone experience how Gibson's Firebird HP balances compared to their Firebird T model? I have a 2016 T and she balances perfectly, but I'm curious how moving the strap position may affect balance. I had always heard or read that Firebird's were neck heavy and prone to diving, but my experience with the T doesn't bear that out. Here's pics of where Gibson moved the upper strap button. The T model is on the left side and the HP on the right.




Seems that moving the strap button out to the upper horn and with the added weight of the G force tuning system at the headstock that it would upset the balance. No one in my area stocks these, so it's unlikely that I'll ever get the chance to find out for myself.


Thanks,


I've played it. Typical nose heavy Gibson with a wraparound bridge. Needed a setup but it sounded decent. It was a pistachio green (couldn't call it seafoam).. Looked pretty cool. Would I buy it? Probably not. You're talking THIS,right?





No it's the "T-model" vs the "HP model":

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Gibson/2017-Firebird-HP-Electric-Guitar.gc

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Gibson/2017-Firebird-T-Electric-Guitar.gc

The Firebird Zero is very cool though and has the strap button in the same position as the Firebird HP. My Firebird T isn't nose heavy in the least. Perfectly balanced.
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