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George .


Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 20945 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:47 am Post subject: rat pedal with less bass cut? |
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do such things exist, boutique clone/mod or otherwise? i love the mooer black secret im borrowing off tim, but a rat style pedal with retained bass would be nigh on perfect.
for "distortion" i only use between 9 to 12 o'clock, so pedals with overall less gain than a rat would be fine. |
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Noirie. YOUTH

Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 5151
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:09 am Post subject: |
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Google Ruetz mod. _________________
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George .


Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 20945 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:19 am Post subject: |
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i've read a bit about that, and a lot of people say it takes something from the original rat sound, so im not sure. have you tried it? |
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Fakir Mustache .


Joined: 25 Sep 2013 Posts: 4097
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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How about this?
I got one, it's awesome. |
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Doog mid-century modem

Joined: 24 Apr 2006 Posts: 21034 Location: London
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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George wrote: |
i've read a bit about that, and a lot of people say it takes something from the original rat sound, so im not sure. have you tried it? |
I did this on my old RAT2 I used for years as a switchable mod- it's definitely worth doing if you don't use the upper half/third of the gain dial as it does reduce the gain a little, but certainly does beef the sound up a bit (less upper-mid spike ) _________________ andrew floss musics |
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George .


Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 20945 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:08 am Post subject: |
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Nice. Having read about various boutique clones they don't seem worth it. Seems I've got two options then:
1. Buy a used rat2 and drill the enclosure for a for a ruetz switch, maybe even pot to make the mod effect variable.
2. Get a used mooer or eno clone and be happy with the original sound. |
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markleton .


Joined: 01 Sep 2008 Posts: 315 Location: Ipswich, UK
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2016 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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George wrote: |
Nice. Having read about various boutique clones they don't seem worth it. Seems I've got two options then:
1. Buy a used rat2 and drill the enclosure for a for a ruetz switch, maybe even pot to make the mod effect variable.
2. Get a used mooer or eno clone and be happy with the original sound. |
I have a Fuzzrocious Rat Tail (now called the Cat Tail) and it has the Ruetz mods on a pot. You can dial in more clipping on the bass and treble frequencies quite nicely. Plus it has spades of bass, it's bassy as a bassy thing through my AC-15, much more than my stock Rat 2 (which I'd be up for selling too cos the Rat Tail is amaaaazing) |
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paul_ .


Joined: 27 Jul 2006 Posts: 9732
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2016 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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I could've sworn someone was making cheap RAT clones with the Ruetz mod switchable from the get-go?
I've noticed I don't really like using rats unless I have my 4x12 tbh. Through my Vibro Champ XD or '70s Bassman Ten, it's a shitfest. And yes, I do realize "use a closed-back 4x12" is a solution that doesn't help most people. _________________
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George .


Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 20945 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:15 am Post subject: |
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yeah, i've owned a rat before and it was awful with fender and the (admittedly shite) mesa nomad i owned. with the ac15 it's really a fantastic low-mid gain pedal.
i'd love to know if there's a cheap chinese clone doing the rounds with the ruetz mod. and that boutique pedal looks excellent, but i'm not sure i want to drop that much money at the moment. |
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Doog mid-century modem

Joined: 24 Apr 2006 Posts: 21034 Location: London
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sure Mike could knock you up something great _________________ andrew floss musics |
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George .


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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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that might just be the answer! is mike still building? i didn't know if he was too busy with his little one these days. |
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Doog mid-century modem

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Grant .


Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 1148 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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Can confirm: Mike's Rat is super good and should be purchased.
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George .


Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 20945 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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ive sent him a pm but assume he's too busy to check shortscale at the moment.
can you talk me through the mods on that? what does the texture pot and switch do? |
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Concretebadger .


Joined: 14 Apr 2012 Posts: 2111 Location: Leeds Leeds LEEDS
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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I figured Mike's busy with the fam, but he's posted a few builds on FB in recent weeks (Dreamboxes and a Fender Blender iirc) so it looks like he has at least some time for pedal builds.
I still have the Rat 2 rebuild that he did ages ago, and it sounds spot on. +1 for a MIEK RAT. |
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Grant .


Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 1148 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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George wrote: |
can you talk me through the mods on that? what does the texture pot and switch do? |
It's been years, but IIRC the switch is a diode selector ("rat" vs "smoother rat"), and the extra knob is variable Ruetz. _________________
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George .


Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 20945 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:13 am Post subject: |
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so the "softer" switch is diode options? it seems a common mod is to get a 3-way that does silicone/led/none.
i'm actually putting a shopping list together now for mike to price up. things i like so far:
- ruetz pot
- 560r on/off switch (works well with ruetz pot apparently)
- led/silicone/off diode switch
- internal trim pot to control overall gain/volume taper (smoother taper at lower gain settings and no silence below 8 o clock)
- feedback loop! can't decide between dpdt/monentary or both (controlled by a switch) |
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