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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:22 pm    Post subject: Bass vi sounds... (bass iv) Reply with quote

Had what is possibly a stupid idea: been looking at bass vi's most people say niche item you'll get bored... so: a bass vi is 30" scale a Squier bronco or a shortscale Ibanez talman bass (probably my choice if I do this) is 30", I'm after the Bass vi sound more than the actual instrument. Could I get one of these basses and a set of bass vi strings but only use the 4 highest strings as I don't really want a bass vi for the low end - then if I get sick of it use the 4 lowest strings for standard SS bass tones... opinions please?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure, but the Bass VI strings have guitar-sized ball ends, so I dunno if that would cause issues.

Otherwise.... it's questionable how the much impact the body size, wood and wiring would affect the overall sound.

Also I don't get why you'd take the four highest strings? So you'd be tuned D-E? Why?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I’m using my VI more like a baritone than a bass, I’ll often play mainly on the top four strings. So it makes sense to me.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’d recommend getting a VI though if you can find one in budget. You can get a really wide variety of toanz from the various pick up configurations.

I was worried it might be a bit “niche” but love it. Really versatile instrument imho.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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When I’m using my VI more like a baritone than a bass, I’ll often play mainly on the top four strings. So it makes sense to me.


It kind of makes sense. But like, tuned D-E you literally don't have any more range than a regular guitar tuned to drop D.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You’re right but I think it’s a way punchier sound though.

I think Eric is probably right re the ballends (am in Glasgow atm so can’t take a close look at mine). I think they’re more like guitar strings. The other issue you might have is that the lower strings on the readily available sets aren’t really heavy enough for “proper” bass playing should you want to repurpose your idea at a later date. La Bellas etc are much better for that but a bit spendy. Circle K/Kalium do a wide range of different gauges for VIs at reasonable prices but the postage is a bit nuts from the US.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BearBoy wrote:
When I’m using my VI more like a baritone than a bass, I’ll often play mainly on the top four strings. So it makes sense to me.


This is kinda what I thought I'd end up doing, I was looking at the Harley Benton guitarbass but they discontinued it this week... bad timing. I don't fancy fender prices and Squier are possibly on the outer edges price wise for something that may be for occasional use.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The classic one has three pickups and a reverb handle assembly, also the strings are closer together. While the strings closer together don't affect the sound, you'll probably play on it differently.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The classic one has three pickups and a reverb handle assembly, also the strings are closer together. While the strings closer together don't affect the sound, you'll probably play on it differently.



The reverb handle is something I could live without.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My mustang bass was strung exactly like this the entire time I owned it.

It worked great!!

I used the middle 4 strings in a VI pack.

Strung it .75-.35

Tuned it regular E

https://youtu.be/_YAXehY2iHs

TONES^^^^^

Beastie Boy tones im going for in that clip
https://youtu.be/ZdJ5e70Q8mw
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beastie Boy song I jacked that clip from

https://youtu.be/ZdJ5e70Q8mw
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BearBoy wrote:
I’d recommend getting a VI though if you can find one in budget. You can get a really wide variety of toanz from the various pick up configurations.

I was worried it might be a bit “niche” but love it. Really versatile instrument imho.

Yup, totes get a VI; I love mine, and use it for a lot of different applications - don’t underestimate the power of amp EQ to shape what you want from them. They’re niche, sure, but quite flexible.

Tuning D-e on 4 strings will get you a similar sound, but, as said, string spacing, and the lack of E and A will lead to VERY different playing styles and option, especially if you want to chord.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Search for the Revelation RJT6, I've seen them sometimes a bit lower than £250. It's basically (no pun intended) a Bass VI. Decent company, too.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What the fuck are you talking about, des?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds to me a little like that to allay your concerns that a Bass VI is something of a niche instrument, you're going to build an even more niche instrument.

I loved my VI, you never have to plumb the reverb handle in (and unlike a lot of systems, without the handle in, you'd never know it was there), and there's a lot you can do with it: you can take a break from it being E-E and tune it up like a baritone (A-A, B-B) with no worries at all, and just a change of strings.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

robroe wrote:
Beastie Boy song I jacked that clip from

https://youtu.be/ZdJ5e70Q8mw


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Ohh God they didnt Jack it from pink floyd did they? Fuuuu
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bro check the video at 30 seconds in, it literally says pink floyd on the back of their speaker cabinets, also the video is an homage to pink floyd live at pompeii lmao
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