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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:57 pm    Post subject: Shortscales and alternate tunings Reply with quote

I've started messing around with alternate tunings for the first time in my guitar life. Open D at the moment. My Tele seems to be OK with it, but my Duo Sonic sounds like it's out of tune, no matter how carefully I try. It was perfectly intonated for standard pitch, so I'm surprised it's being so uncooperative. Low E especially.

I'm playing 10.5 on the Duo, 10s on the Tele. Do I need to bump up to 11s for the Duo? Or is this a quirk of shortscales, being more sensitive about tunings/intonation?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thicker gauge strings help 100%. I've got a Jaguar tuned to C standard and I have to use 12s for a decent tension. I imagine with a thicker gauge the guitar should intonate just fine
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to play my Jagstang in drop B with 10s and it was fine (if a bit floppy on the E). I’d look at the nut in the first instance, and then yeah bigger gauge - but again check the nut allows the right movement for thicker strings.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You’ll probably have to intonate for the new tuning
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put elevens on it.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A fun one that i do is Open D add9 (i THINK). Its basically Drop D, then take the G down a half step to F# and the B down a step to A... So its D-A-D-F#-A-E..... Super fun. You can do a lot of chords and different things while letting the two high strings ring out. I do it on my Duostang with 10-46 and it works pretty well.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mattsican wrote:
A fun one that i do is Open D add9 (i THINK). Its basically Drop D, then take the G down a half step to F# and the B down a step to A... So its D-A-D-F#-A-E..... Super fun. You can do a lot of chords and different things while letting the two high strings ring out. I do it on my Duostang with 10-46 and it works pretty well.


That's open D with the high E left alone. I'll have to try that.

BTW, just to follow up since I posted this thread...I went to 11s on this guitar for the open tuning. I still hate the feeling of thick strings, but at least it sounds more in tune. Thanks for the suggestions!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've tried drop D with 10-46 on my Squier VM Mustang and it worked really well.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

11s or 12s depending on the tuning i'd think. i mean, zz top detune their strats w/ 8s, so to each his own on the whole string tension debate.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thom wrote:
I used to play my Jagstang in drop B with 10s and it was fine (if a bit floppy on the E). I’d look at the nut in the first instance, and then yeah bigger gauge - but again check the nut allows the right movement for thicker strings.


Haha, fucking hell. 10s on my Jag-stang feels lovely and floppy at standard.

I have my Jazzblaster in drop B but with the six heavy strings from a seven string set.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Haha, fucking hell. 10s on my Jag-stang feels lovely and floppy at standard.

I have my Jazzblaster in drop B but with the six heavy strings from a seven string set.

haha yeah it was pretty floppy, but it really sounded great!
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