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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:50 pm    Post subject: Shortscale drawing/painting thread. Reply with quote

I'll start.

Zombie on a motorcycle. From back in the early 90's, when I did book illustrations for the Cyberpunk RPG books.


Page from some Cyberpunk RPG book I illustrated, aslo early 90's. With LULZ-worthy guitar imagery.


OH NOES! COMMIES!


Production sketch for a cartoon that I never finished.


I've been playing around with a graphic tablet lately. A boring Facebook sketch of a banana.


I haven't had much time to draw ever since I decided to go back to school to become a nurse. Here's a sketch I made during a boring biology lecture. I scanned it and used photoshop to add colour.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! nice work, dude. It's always so great to see guitars correctly represented in illustrations.
It's the little details that getcha... like your inclusion of cord-around-strap. Takes an actual guitarist
to fuss over that.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Shortscale drawing/painting thread. Reply with quote

astro wrote:

Hahahaha, awesome.

I wish I could draw, I learned to paint and draw using a bunch of mediums but I just don't have the imagination for it.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

laterallateral wrote:
Wow! nice work, dude. It's always so great to see guitars correctly represented in illustrations.
It's the little details that getcha... like your inclusion of cord-around-strap. Takes an actual guitarist
to fuss over that.


Thanks, dude! Actually, I've always been bothered by that guitar, because of where I drew the pickup selector switch. It just doesn't look right where it is. And being the early 90's, I sadly thought superstrats were actually cool. If I only knew better back then, I would have drawn a Mustang instead.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Shortscale drawing/painting thread. Reply with quote

astro wrote:
I'll start.

Zombie on a motorcycle


Best opening gambit to a thread in years.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

astro wrote:
Thanks, dude! Actually, I've always been bothered by that guitar, because of where I drew the pickup selector switch.


I think your inclusion of dual strap buttons totally makes up for that, though.

...Yeah, it was the nineties... nobody can can give you too much shit for stuff you did back then because a little bit of digging (or honesty on their part) would reveal something equaly embarrassing. I wore home made tie-dyed shirts, grey 14 hole DMs and had dreadlocks with bolts and shit in them, so... it was more like the NINties for me.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Shortscale drawing/painting thread. Reply with quote

Mike wrote:
astro wrote:
I'll start.

Zombie on a motorcycle


Best opening gambit to a thread in years.


also a great bandname
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's some more illustrations from the Cyberpunk RPG's. I think I drew these circa 1992.


Zombie with someone's organ donation


A werewolf. Ewww... dog breath!


A zombie after rising from the grave. Notice the creepy date of death, drawn 9 years before that date became infamous.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

laterallateral wrote:
astro wrote:
Thanks, dude! Actually, I've always been bothered by that guitar, because of where I drew the pickup selector switch.


I think your inclusion of dual strap buttons totally makes up for that, though.

...Yeah, it was the nineties... nobody can can give you too much shit for stuff you did back then because a little bit of digging (or honesty on their part) would reveal something equaly embarrassing. I wore home made tie-dyed shirts, grey 14 hole DMs and had dreadlocks with bolts and shit in them, so... it was more like the NINties for me.


Shit... I think I remember seeing you around back then... did your dreadlocks have glow-in-the-dark ends at one point?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no but I WISH.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sick.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll say the same thing they said to Robert Spiegelman when he drew MAUS: I like how you draw hands. Comics are banging right now. You may keep them in the back of your head for later. Stories from Nursing School
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey! I just saw the drawing tablet reference. I just got a cheap $20 WACOM on ebay. The drivers were all online and I already had some apps. What do you use to paint in? I have this totally bitching little app that Microsoft bought from another company, offered for free, then suddenly dropped all mention of it or support. The unique thing about it is that it's a vector app like Illustrator, but it tapers the lines line a paint brush. Here's a quick sample. It goes from one app (Expression) at the top into Illustrator, which converts it to outlines that can be modified. My only complaint about the tapering lines is that they happen regardless of how hard you push, so you can't control the amount, or the shape of the line. But it's superior to Illustrator's uniform thickness.

I have been planning to draw comics in india ink, with brush and dip pen, but most people scan and tweak in Photoshop anyway, so if I can do it all on the computer, I could streamline the process. But it's also like substituting a drum machine for real beats. It better be one fuck of a drum machine.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the compliments about the hands. Art Spieglman rocks, btw! I learned to draw hands from life drawing (lots of it) but this book is an excellent reference:



I've only really started exploring my Wacom tablet. It's the budget model that they make (can't remember what they're called). When I was running Windows, I used it with Painter (I think that it's made by Corel? Not sure) and photoshop. Now I'm running Ubuntu, and I'm using it in the GIMP. GIMP rocks, by the way (way more powerful than Photoshop, but it's only something like 9 megs, and free!). I find that the Wacom actually works better in Ubuntu than Windows. Wacom has allowed the open-source community to tweak the linux drivers, so it works beautifully.

I used to work in the animation biz before switching careers, and we used tablets at work, but the software was all proprietary animation production stuff, not the kind of software you can easily buy or download for home use. I've tried using it with Illustrator and Inkwell, but I just get thousands of nodes on all my vectors. So I haven't found any vector stuff that works well. I'll try and find the software that you mention (hopefully it runs in Wine) and try it out. You could always just draw your image as a raster (high res) and then convert it to a vector image, if it's just line work.

Once my student loans are paid off, I'd like to get one of these:


It's a Wacom Cintiq. It's a combination LCD monitor and drawing tablet, so that you basically draw directly on the screen. They're something like two grand $, so I won't be buying one for a while!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DGNR8 wrote:

I have been planning to draw comics in india ink, with brush and dip pen, but most people scan and tweak in Photoshop anyway, so if I can do it all on the computer, I could streamline the process. But it's also like substituting a drum machine for real beats. It better be one fuck of a drum machine.


You can do really cool stuff with a 100% digital workflow, but it won't look exactly like ink on paper. I think the key is to not try and emulate pen & ink, but to work with the quirks of digital to make it part of the look.

You can also draw on paper with just pencil, and tweak it digitally to look like pen & ink. I've done that with good results, and if you use rough textured paper and softer lead, you can get a nice "analog" texture to your lines. I also often do very small drawings on paper with a mechanical pencil, scan it, and greatly magnify the size of the image. When the line gets blown up, it looks all rough and textured, and nicely thick.


Oh, and on the subject of drawing hands: it's by far the hardest part of human anatomy to draw. It was the last part of the body that I managed to get decent at drawing, and I still have a lot of trouble making hands look right. Portraits are infinitely easier.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's some more stuff. I don't have much artwork scanned, what I have is in random different folders (not organized), and the cat recently destroyed the scanner, so I don't currently have the means to scan anything new. This batch is all stuff that I drew when I was really bored in class last year.

Here's a tumor and a polyp.



Here's the original hippy doodle, before photoshopping. You can see the lines from the notebook paper.



And here's a really NOT SAFE FOR WORK (or lunch) one. Please don't click if coworkers or small children are around.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

good stuff astro
a talent a wish i had-- badly
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahahahaha, the hidden one is awesome.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skip wrote:
good stuff astro
a talent a wish i had-- badly


There's a myth that drawing skills are something that you are either born with, or will never have. But that's simply not true. I didn't start drawing seriously until my mid teens, and before that I could only draw stick figures. It's actually no different than playing a musical instrument. If you practice, you get better, and nobody starts off being any good at it. Anybody can learn how to draw, and learn to do it quite well. You just have to invest your time.

If you want to learn, start drawing things that you see. You'll suck at first, but you'll be amazed at how fast you will improve. It doesn't have to be with fancy materials, just a regular pencil and regular paper. There's lots of books available, but a lot of them are crap. Here's one that I strongly recommend: Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't drawn in over 15 years, so the other day I decided to see if I could still, and sketched my baby.

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