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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:18 pm    Post subject: Help me mix a band in 1 track Reply with quote

This is mainly a ripoff of Aeons thread, but I thought it was different enough to warrant a new thread.

Hey, so as I mentioned in a previous thread, my setup only allows me to mix on the soundboard then go in directly into 1 track, so we got a halfway decent mix. Here it is:

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What I need is advice, what should I do to make it better? What EQ, Compressor, Noise Gate? I'm using logic express 7, I just need some ways to make it a bit better before I add vocals. Any advice at all, realllllly.

Disclaimer: I've only played guitar/been in a band for 2 years, so keep that in mind.Return to Sender
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That track is awesome
very biffy/smashing pumpkins (in a good way)
that gear you using?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FitzG wrote:
That track is awesome
very biffy/smashing pumpkins (in a good way)
that gear you using?


Thanks, I'm using a MIJ Jaguar into LPB-1>RAT2>SMALL CLONE>BUGERA V55HD. close mic'd with a crap dynamic mic.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it possibly for you to double track the guitar parts? You might get some size by doubling/tripling/etc up, at least on the distorted bits.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aeon wrote:
Is it possibly for you to double track the guitar parts? You might get some size by doubling/tripling/etc up, at least on the distorted bits.


yeah I coud, the riff is just on two strings, so not to full sounding.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i personally like the guitar as is. over all lotsa good tones. if i was to do anything, i might bring up the kick a bit, and use just a little compression on snare and bass guitar.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gaybear wrote:
i personally like the guitar as is. over all lotsa good tones. if i was to do anything, i might bring up the kick a bit, and use just a little compression on snare and bass guitar.


problem being, this is one one track, I cant chance any levels, period. I could eq the kick frequency..
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you're mixing multiple tracks to 1 track though, right?



anyhoo, i think the song's great. wanna hear final product.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gaybear wrote:
you're mixing multiple tracks to 1 track though, right?



anyhoo, i think the song's great. wanna hear final product.


no. this was our first legit live recording -- everything went into a peavey mixer, and we eq'd it best we could there by judging samples from the computer. so Im micing 1 track into one track. I don't have a USB thingamajig to do 4 tracks simulatneously, are there any on the cheap?

anyway - vocals are done, but logic 7's export button is actually missing wtf.

anyone use logic express7?

what does 'bounce' do? i tried it and it essentially exported it, with 3 minutes of silence at the end. maybe i should've stuck w/ garageband...
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The link now has vocals - too loud?

More compression?

Thanks for replies
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That sounds great through these tinny laptop speakers. I think the mix is fine like that. The vocals are a bit loud and the guitar is a bit quiet but it really works well in this song. It feels like the vocals should be the main focus.
Very well done Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haze wrote:
That sounds great through these tinny laptop speakers. I think the mix is fine like that. The vocals are a bit loud and the guitar is a bit quiet but it really works well in this song. It feels like the vocals should be the main focus.
Very well done Wink


Thanks - I can't really tell with the mix because im not using monitors so the bass is usually way more present when im hearing it then it actually is.

what genrea would you classify us as?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

reminds me of Pacific Northwest sound (other than grunge)
Kinda Crystal Skulls
I really like the vocals, and don't mind them that high in the mix (maybe down a tiny bit, but not a whole helluva lot.)

oh, i hear a little bit of Sea And Cake as well.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

new mix, same link, vocals are quieter now maybe a bit to much so? thoughts?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just gave the mix a good listen and I think the vocals sit very well and sound very good. I believe the drums are way too present. The guitar is there but just not pushing enough. I think if that *could* be beefed up in anyway and the drums sit a little bit more back in the mix then it would be a much better recording. Good work so far. Definitely diggin it.
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