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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:10 pm    Post subject: Scales Reply with quote

Hey, didn't really knew where to post this topic..

but!

i need some guitar scales, to play solos in style of metallica, and other music in that genre..
anyone knows what scales e.g. kirk hammett uses, or any scales that would be good for metallica?

thanks!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

plain old minor scales for the most part
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This should probably be in Guitar Resources.

Important scales for this style are:
Minor Pentatonic
Aeolian Mode
Harmonic Minor

The Minor Pentatonic can be used on nearly any style, and is quite an easy scale to use, in that most of the notes will sound right, regardless of what's going on underneath (provided you are in the correct key)

The Aeolian Mode sounds a bit more classical, and features more notes (indeed, it is identical to the Pentatonic except that it's had more notes added). Again, this scale is mostly 'safe' notes that will sound good. This scale is good for quick runs. Pay attention to the melody of what you are playing.

The Harmonic Minor scale is identical to the Aeolian Mode, except that one of the notes has been raised by one fret. The same rules apply as for the Aeolian mode, except for this raised note which sounds dramatic if used correctly, but it's easy to make it sound 'wrong.'

EDIT: The important thing is to practice these scales so tthe point that you know how they work, so that you know what sound a particular note will give you. Think about singing a guitar solo. You should be able to find the notes on the guitar as intuitively as that. Also, playing through these scales thoroughly will let you know what they are capable of and spark your imagination. You might be playing through the scale and find a sound that you like, and make a note of it, so that you then have that idea bouncing around your head.

Practice playing patterns within the scales, like try playing the notes 1, 2, 3, 2, 3, 4, 4, 5, 6, 5, 6, 7, 8 etc. (where 1 is the bottom note in the scale, 2 is the note above that, 3 above that and so on). This sort of thing will mean that you won't have to think about what your hands are doing, so when it comes to improvising you'll be able to play what you imagine in your head with not problems. Think about the process of getting what's in your head to come out of your guitar. The less possible sticking points along the way, the smoother that process will run. If you make it so that your hands can think for themselves (sort of) then you've taken out a major sticking point.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BacchusPaul wrote:
This should probably be in Guitar Resources.

Important scales for this style are:
Minor Pentatonic
Aeolian Mode
Harmonic Minor

The Minor Pentatonic can be used on nearly any style, and is quite an easy scale to use, in that most of the notes will sound right, regardless of what's going on underneath (provided you are in the correct key)

The Aeolian Mode sounds a bit more classical, and features more notes (indeed, it is identical to the Pentatonic except that it's had more notes added). Again, this scale is mostly 'safe' notes that will sound good. This scale is good for quick runs. Pay attention to the melody of what you are playing.

The Harmonic Minor scale is identical to the Aeolian Mode, except that one of the notes has been raised by one fret. The same rules apply as for the Aeolian mode, except for this raised note which sounds dramatic if used correctly, but it's easy to make it sound 'wrong.'

EDIT: The important thing is to practice these scales so tthe point that you know how they work, so that you know what sound a particular note will give you. Think about singing a guitar solo. You should be able to find the notes on the guitar as intuitively as that. Also, playing through these scales thoroughly will let you know what they are capable of and spark your imagination. You might be playing through the scale and find a sound that you like, and make a note of it, so that you then have that idea bouncing around your head.

Practice playing patterns within the scales, like try playing the notes 1, 2, 3, 2, 3, 4, 4, 5, 6, 5, 6, 7, 8 etc. (where 1 is the bottom note in the scale, 2 is the note above that, 3 above that and so on). This sort of thing will mean that you won't have to think about what your hands are doing, so when it comes to improvising you'll be able to play what you imagine in your head with not problems. Think about the process of getting what's in your head to come out of your guitar. The less possible sticking points along the way, the smoother that process will run. If you make it so that your hands can think for themselves (sort of) then you've taken out a major sticking point.


thanks, i'll look at these scales!

i know about practicing these scales all the time.. thats what i've done with a blues scale, which i don't know the name on. Bit that scale i know very well, and can easily play a good solo from that, but the thing is, that i really wanted to learn other scales, to improve my solo play instead of playing almost the same solos at gigs in every song :b

again thank you

EDIT: found out that the scale i couldn't remember the name on, was the minor pentatonic that you linked to..
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, the Minor Pentatonic is just the Blues Scale with a few notes taken out, so that'll be familiar enough.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BacchusPaul wrote:
Well, the Minor Pentatonic is just the Blues Scale with a few notes taken out, so that'll be familiar enough.


yeah, it's SO easy to solo on!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can solo with that you can solo with any other scale. Most (or at least a lot) of scales have those notes in them plus other notes.

Just think of that scale as your safe notes, then the other notes as the exotic notes.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds good.. i'll try to work with them !
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