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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:05 am    Post subject: how much 'bleed' do you tolerate? Reply with quote

plenty, some, none at all?

personally i like a little bit of bleed. it makes the over all track feel more cohesive. within reason of course.
except on the vocal track i suppose
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I totally don't mind a bit of bleed, like cymbals in my guitar tracks or bass in the drum track...
If you're recording off the floor like that, you're probably looking for a "live feel" which is exactly what you get when your shit bleeds trough a little, IMO.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think sometimes, if tracks are too bleed free it sounds kinda creepy
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on the piece. Usually I need a BIG. Drum sound, so it's pretty shitty to have all the other Instruments spilling over into the distance mic.
A little bit is usually fine, the other night we did a percussion track with four mics and everybody was in everybodys track, but it was cool, cause we panned that shit. HARD. Bass guitar getting out is a big problem for me though. We tried to do some live tracking with 2 guitars, bass and drums, and it just turned into mush from the bass bouncing all over. I imagine in a lower volume situation it would be easier to deal with, but we ended up with seven tracks of "bass and..." and one of bass.

So in general, I dislike bleed. I do a fine job of making shit sound live when it ain't.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, bass is usually the biggest problem--that and the vocal mics if they're open. When doing actual "recordings" I try and limit it as much as possible; but then alot of the stuff recorded at ALBQs turns out pretty decent so what the hell do I know.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's no one hard-and-fast rule regarding bleed, though as others have mentioned it's a good idea to try and minimise the amount of bass leaking onto the other tracks as it can muddy up the track.
Personally, I like a bit of guitar bleeding onto the drum track. I'd go as far as to say my favourite recordings are ones which actually sound like a band is playing together in a room.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For most of the stuff I do, I let it bleed quite a bit. Usually make some serious effort to isolate vocals.

I do this for a number of reasons but probably mostly because I've only got one room and I like doing things live and linear.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

all bleed. all live. all the time.

relationship of command was recorded live in the studio. they just set up mic's and played


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

usually some bleed on the vocals tracks, i need to record them to a really loud backing, but i don't mind, i usually keep the vocals centered so it blends well with a bit of bleed on the tracks. the other things like guitars and bass are usually recorded without a mic but with line out on a small amp i have or sometimes even just straight from my pedalboard into a usb interface into my laptop so no bleed.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

robroe wrote:
all bleed. all live. all the time.

relationship of command was recorded live in the studio. they just set up mic's and played



Fun House by The Stooges too. I'm a fan of that live sound/vibe.
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