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ultratwin
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:10 am    Post subject: Not StSanders. Reply with quote

Any of you guys tried matching audio to video when speeds are way off?

I decided to take our '60s comp tune and match it to some original Monkees clip, experiencing a mega headache with the sync. After a little testing long time I figured out our cover was much slower, being only 87.5% the speed of the original, yet iMovie doesn't so that kind of subdivision. So I was left to leave most clips at 87% and chop out .1" here and there to keep some kind of uniformity in speed, using Micky Dolenz' bigass mouth as my visual metronome. I guess I could have used time compress for a more frenetic fast tempo dreampop mess and a better chance at matching the tempo, but just let it be for now.

I think it came out OK, though I reckon I could probably spend all day fine tuning it and still find something off-sync.


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gaybear
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well done!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that was amazing. i noticed the parts that were off, but the cover was so bad ass i didn't even care!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice.
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ultratwin
The 25.5" subversion


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks so much for the kind words, doods.



The more I watched the original video, the more I realized:

- Micky Dolenz was using bare minimum beat skillz to barely get by, grazing the skins but taking pride in his pipes.
- Davy Jones was a silly goofball
- Peter Tork really enjoyed the experience, hence his seriousness about music in the future.
- Mike Nesmith hated playing dumb the whole time (you can see him mouth a pissed "what?" near the end), and already had in mind to score big with other business...And did he ever!
- It was probably shot in two very unrehearsed takes by an apathetic director.
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Mike
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So amazing. Love this.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats amazing, really nice cover and a cool video to match!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha thats cool stuff right there! My band covers stepping stone but its not as awesome as that... awesome tones going
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ultratwin
The 25.5" subversion


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

broncobuster80 wrote:
haha thats cool stuff right there! My band covers stepping stone but its not as awesome as that... awesome tones going



Thanks a bunch!

I tried out something I had never done before on the lead guitar line (double tracked), which was detuning the heavily-strung Jazzmaster to C# and running it into the Janglebox. The signal was then squashed again in the Vox Tonelab, set to AC15 sim with internal compression, presence knob up to about 3:00. Tonelab output signal went into the SPL Channel1 for tube preamp juicing, getting even more compression before going into the A/D converter to the sequencer. It was noisy and brash, yet was crushed with so much comp that it sat in the mix without a fit, at least to my ears. With a little fiddling on the Tonelab, I realized I had found my favorite '60s garage rock tone from the combination, partially by accident.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha wow.. did you take notes while setting up your rig? So thats a Jazz on the actual track, is it the same guitar doubled or did you swap guitars?
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ultratwin
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

broncobuster80 wrote:
haha wow.. did you take notes while setting up your rig? So thats a Jazz on the actual track, is it the same guitar doubled or did you swap guitars?


No notes, just a bucnh of twiddling. If EQ is done with a little attention prior to going to "tape", then I can often convince it to cover up some settings that would normally make my playing sound like doo-doo through a real amp. A bad excuse, but as far as I'm concerned, it's passable for most tracking I do.

The Jazzo was tracked on both sides, and then I poured on some really heavy JCM900-simulating hi-gain tones on the chorus, filling in some of the gaps with an acoustic guitar. Syth pads and vox did the rest to 'gaze it up a bit. Thanks for listening!
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stewart
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is great- i think any sync issues i noticed were with dolenz's drums, but i bet he's not even in time with what he's miming to, the dolt.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hahaha, it's so cool! Top stuff, Andi.
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