ShortScale Forum Index www.shortscale.org
Head 'n Neck Above
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 
UploaderUploader   ShortScale WikiBuilder

Breakout Boxes For PC recording

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    ShortScale Forum Index -> Playing Technique, Theory, Recording Tips, and Talk
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Doog
can i get uhhh


Joined: 24 Apr 2006
Posts: 19245
Location: London

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:44 am    Post subject: Breakout Boxes For PC recording Reply with quote

Hey dudes, I'm going to be doing a paid session for a friend's band in the future and I'm needing to pick up some equipment for it; namely a breakout box so I'm able to run 6 or so drum mics into my PC, keeping them all as separate tracks.

Before I start the tedious discover-research-readreviews cycle on Google, does anyone have any recommendations?

Danke!
x
_________________
musics
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Mike
I like EL34s


Joined: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 38018
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Borrow my Edirol UA-1000?

http://www.roland.com/products/en/UA-1000/

4 mic pres and also 10 inputs on the back, so you can run 4 mics direct into the box and up to 6 more via mixer(s)

USB2.0. Download the drivers for your PC and see if they install OK. You're welcome to borrow it.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Doog
can i get uhhh


Joined: 24 Apr 2006
Posts: 19245
Location: London

PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sweet, that be fucking aweeeeeeeeeesome mate! FANKS

I am keen to get something of my own however, so I'll guess I'll see what can be grabbed on a budget; the Edirol looks a wee bit too spendy for my wallet.
_________________
musics
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Mike
I like EL34s


Joined: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 38018
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It ain't made anymore I think anyways.

But yeah you're welcome to it, just let me know. I think finding something with 6 mic pres is going to be pricey, so you might need something with 2-4 and then a small Behringer mixer to supply the other mics.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
cobascis
.
.


Joined: 21 Jun 2008
Posts: 3829
Location: Mendocino, CA

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm very interested in this. What sort of device makes it so you can record multiple tracks at once, then edit the levels of them on the software after? Does it have to be USB?
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Al_
.
.


Joined: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 509038
Location: Vista, CA

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a bunch these days. USB or Firewire; or sometimes a custom serial cable depending on the box.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
foofoo982
.
.


Joined: 10 Sep 2006
Posts: 286
Location: Madison, WI/Iowa City, IA

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard good things about the Behringer Xenyx line with USB. Haven't had a chance to use them though. I don't see why they wouldn't work well, and the price seems to be right.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
paul_
.
.


Joined: 27 Jul 2006
Posts: 8934

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike wrote:
I think finding something with 6 mic pres is going to be pricey, so you might need something with 2-4 and then a small Behringer mixer to supply the other mics.


This is how I do it for the mo. Overheads come from Behringer Xenyx 802 running stereo line outputs to the console/interface, then kick and snare into the 2 XLRs on the console.
_________________
Aug wrote:
which one of you bastards sent me an ebay question asking if you can get teh kurdtz with that 64 mustang? Mad

robertOG wrote:
fran & paul are some of the original gangstas of the JS days when you'd have to say "phuck"
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
DanHeron
.
.


Joined: 24 May 2008
Posts: 3483
Location: Manchester, UK

PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a couple of options:

M-Audio Fast Track Ultra 8R - 350ish:

-8 Mic Pre Amps

ZOOM R16 - 300ish:


It's a standalone digital recorder which can also be used as a USB interface and controller! handy!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
cobascis
.
.


Joined: 21 Jun 2008
Posts: 3829
Location: Mendocino, CA

PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

paul_ wrote:
Mike wrote:
I think finding something with 6 mic pres is going to be pricey, so you might need something with 2-4 and then a small Behringer mixer to supply the other mics.


This is how I do it for the mo. Overheads come from Behringer Xenyx 802 running stereo line outputs to the console/interface, then kick and snare into the 2 XLRs on the console.


Can you explain this more? (sorry, im new to recording multi track simultaneously) I'm looking to do the same.

You are running Snare and Kick into inputs 1 and 2 on the Xenyx, and the overheads on 3/4 5/6? Can you then edit the levels and mix on the computer?
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Doog
can i get uhhh


Joined: 24 Apr 2006
Posts: 19245
Location: London

PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DanHeron wrote:
ZOOM R16 - 300ish:


It's a standalone digital recorder which can also be used as a USB interface and controller! handy!


Funnily enough, I was just looking at this and it does look remarkably good, especially for my needs. It even has built-in guitar FX and amp sims so I'm able to retire/bin my old Boss BR8 that's being used pretty much purely for "silent" guitar recording.

I was actually pondering if my laptop would be beefy enough to handle 6-8 tracks of live audio without fucking up, this looks like the perfect solution to me; I can easily just stick the raw audio on my desktop using the R16's memory card and mix within Acid 7 as per usual.

Gentleman, I think we have a winner on all accounts, thanks all for your help.
_________________
musics
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Mike
I like EL34s


Joined: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 38018
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland

PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely, there is no way your laptop could handle it, believe me.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Doog
can i get uhhh


Joined: 24 Apr 2006
Posts: 19245
Location: London

PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quite possibly, although it's not a bad laptop by any means- it just would've probably needed a memory upgrade to deal with it.

I certainly think this is the most elegant solution and with a very appealing price tag- it might be the push I need to sell off the 2x12 Marshall rig and maybe a few other things.
_________________
musics
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Doog
can i get uhhh


Joined: 24 Apr 2006
Posts: 19245
Location: London

PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Following the consumption of a lot of reviews and technical demos (mainly this guy's), I've just ordered a brand new R16 on Ebay for 270 delivered! You gotta love the "best offer" feature. And tax rebates.

I was a bit miffed I'd missed out on a used one last week for 235 (SHOULDA JUST DONE THE 230 BUY IT NOW IN THE FIRST PLACE, DOOG!), so a brand new one with warranty and free delivery has salved my burns somewhat.
_________________
musics
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
cobascis
.
.


Joined: 21 Jun 2008
Posts: 3829
Location: Mendocino, CA

PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lemme know how it works out for you after you record les drums, eh?
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Doog
can i get uhhh


Joined: 24 Apr 2006
Posts: 19245
Location: London

PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will dew, I intend to do an gear demo video for the SS Youtube account once I've got to grips with it, this thing is surely a godsend to younger bands.
_________________
musics
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
DanHeron
.
.


Joined: 24 May 2008
Posts: 3483
Location: Manchester, UK

PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That review you posted above is great. The internal mics sound pretty good! I really want one of these R16s haha
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
GreenKnee
.
.


Joined: 29 Oct 2009
Posts: 573
Location: Sheffield, England

PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can someone help me out with these M-audio things...

Sorry to hijack the thread btw.

I'm looking at this beast:
http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/product/35117-m-audio-profire-2626-high-definition-firewire-audio-interface.html


But where the fuck do the '26' inputs come from?
I'd plug it straight into my Mac with firewire, but I can only see 8 inputs on the back, 2 on front?
Picture of back view:
http://www.m-audio.com/images/global/media_hqpics/Profire2626%20-back.jpg


I'm new to this stuff, our drummers Dad is a studio engineer so he records us, but I'd like it for keeping in our practice room, record new ideas/practices/ and possibly use it for capturing that raw feel!


Jack
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
DanHeron
.
.


Joined: 24 May 2008
Posts: 3483
Location: Manchester, UK

PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those optical inputs on the back are where you can plug in more inputs. It can handle upto 26.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Doog
can i get uhhh


Joined: 24 Apr 2006
Posts: 19245
Location: London

PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


Link

Have had a good play with the R16 and am thoroughly impressed- the fact I can pop out the SD card and stick it straight in the laptop to grab the .wav files is convenient beyond comprehension.

The built-in amp (and "amp & pedal") sims really are pretty decent, I could happily lay down a few proper album overdubs using them alone. I'll knock up a nice demo it over Xmas once I'm near a drumkit/bass/more socialable recording environment.
_________________
musics
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    ShortScale Forum Index -> Playing Technique, Theory, Recording Tips, and Talk All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

Anti Bot Question MOD - phpBB MOD against Spam Bots
Blocked registrations / posts: 602758 / 0

Guitars at Musician's Friend

Help support this site by clicking the above link!