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Fran · Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 5:58 pm Post subject:

Go on then.. who voted 'shred it'? Laughing

Tomorrow i plan to swap it back over for a look and listen. I can't see them dragster pups being as good as the DiM's though, them boys are quality upgrades. I've had a few more hours playing it today and the clean sounds are the best i've heard from a guitar i've owned and i have had my fair share. Not fully convinced with the pearloid though.

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tortouse pg. do it.

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get rid of the chrome knobs. if you dig the idea of knobs that aren't standard jag knobs... get some Gibson tophats with chrome inserts. like these...

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Fran · Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 3:26 pm Post subject:

Made the swap today. Verdict: As suspected the dragsters are not even in the same league as the DiM's. They are'nt poor pickups by any means but just dont have the same tonal qualities clean or distorted. However the bridge pup seems more powerfull and responds better to heavy rythyms, but the neck 'bucker is the better voiced pup of the two.
The guitar still sounds fairly bright with jangle aplenty.
The guitar looks much better back in stock form imo, so i'm going back to my original plan of keeping it stock with the exception of fitting a '59 PAF in the bridge position.
The DiM's where very impressive and will obviously fit better my red Jag with them being singles.

Mike · Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 3:37 pm Post subject:

Fair play for experimenting, and I;m glad you've found a solution for both guitars.
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foofoo982 · Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:49 am Post subject:

I say keep it how it is if you like the current set up. Plus it's a bit different than a normal HH.

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dots · Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 11:01 pm Post subject: Re: Jaguar HH thread # 2

Fran · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:51 pm Post subject: Re: Jaguar HH thread # 2

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I am actually not normally a big black fan, and I don't like Fender headstocks to be black EVAR. But this is where the Queen of spades shoots the moon with all hearts and spades and makes it not only acceptable, but perfect. I like both teh stock and modified. That is a keeper guitar.

Oh. Could you post pics now that you have made the changes? What exactly are the differences between that and a regular Jag besides the pups? (I know that's significant). I hate to admit it, but there's something very appealing about a stock Fender with TWO HBs. I have owned a jagstang and a fat strat, but this is in its own class.

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Mike · Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:10 pm Post subject:

Ok that looks pissing gorgeous.
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theshadowofseattle · Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:39 pm Post subject:

Aye. Looking good!
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Mike · Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:41 pm Post subject:

Bring that shit in August.
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DGNR8 · . Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 4209 Location: DC Area

Oh yeah. That's nice.

There seems to be several of these for sale on ebay right now for $400-500 USD. Why are they so inexpensive, compared to other Jags? You'd think they'd be even more with HBs.

Are you happy without a whammy? So to get ehe sound you like, all you had to do was strap in another scratch plate with single coils and rewire. Are they 500k pots or 250s?
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fran wins at jags. his other jag has the nicest japanese burst ever sprayed, and this one has the only colour scheme to involve a black body that i'm down with on fenders.

oh yeah and he's got that red one too. whoa.
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Black and tort rules. That look so good.

Fran · Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:30 pm Post subject:

Now we've finally got some daylight in the house here is a better picture..

Thanks for all the comments.

As for the questions, i think the HH models may be cheaper perhaps because the design has'nt sold as well as Fender predicted, if this model would have been available back in Kurdtz day it would have sold effortlessly. Ultimately people like things to be traditional so the standard Jag will always be seen as the proper Jag and of course people feel they are getting more for their money with the tremelo system and may overlook the advantages/disadvantages of trems and non trem guitars.
I'll be honest, them humbuckers are not great but neither are they bad. Anyone that respects tone, valve amps and diversity will want to upgrade.

I glanced at the pots and i think they are 250k's but not positive, the rewire is simple. You have a 'hot' and 'ground' on each control plate.
The hardest part is finding screws the right length to hold the pups down, the routes are deeper than normal to accomodate humbucker pup screws and foam needs to be added to get the correct height.
I dont miss the whammy at all because i'm not a regular user, plus the TOM seems to contribute towards sustain.
All in all i am very happy with this purchase, like paul pointed out i'm a bit spoilt for choice now though.