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Does scale length make a big difference on string tension?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:53 am    Post subject: Does scale length make a big difference on string tension? Reply with quote

Is it just me or is the effect pretty marginal?

I recently got my first Jag and put 11s on it and frankly I don't experience a lot of difference in feel from my JM. I would even say that the Jag feels stiffer.

Also in comparison with my tele with 10s the Jag definitely has stiffer action....

Now am I hallucinating or am I onto something?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say it makes a good difference, I notice the slinky feelings on all of the jags I've played in shops with whimpy 9s. Especially on the 22" duo sonic I had, 12s on that felt about the same as 10s on a 25.5" scale

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It definitely does. 9s are unplayable on a shortscale guitar like a Mustang, 10s are marginal.

As for Jaguars and Jazzmasters, teh effect is more limited because the trems are set so far back from the bridge and the nut. I play 11s on my Jaguar and also did on my Telecaster when I had it, because I like a bit of fight in my strings, mainly to compensate for my appalling fretting.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike wrote:
It definitely does. 9s are unplayable on a shortscale guitar like a Mustang, 10s are marginal.


Man, I've been playing 9's on my Mustang for over 20 years. It's totally fine with them. I even had 9's on that Mexican Duo, and there was no problem even tuned down to B.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This and Antigua thing make me doubt the authenticity of any of your posting.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you say 11's what's the specific gauge... at the end of the day, that's just one string !!

I've been moving back & forth from regular slinky 10's & power slinky 11's...

I am however about to try these... which I think will be a perfect mix !!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm all about the 11-52s. The difference between my 25.5" Tele and my 24" Jaguar is very noticeable, both using the same 11-52 gauge strings.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both wrong.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

9s on a shortscale tuned to b must have been ridiculous.

i used 13-54's tuned to b on a gibson scale and that felt really floppy to me.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i use 11-48s on 24" and 25.5" scales and they feel comfortable on both. i definitely wouldn't use anything lower than that on a shortscale. when i had my silvertone i used 13-56s or something like that, but it was tiny.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Earnie ball heavy bottom skinny top on everything for me and it all plays great.

9's on a duo reissue is ridiculous. Even with the heavy bottoms on there I couldn't get proper string tension from that thing until I modded it to have a string through body.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

....so obviously there's something wrong with my perception.... Shocked

Got to work on my sensitivity I guess.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mezzio13 wrote:
I even had 9's on that Mexican Duo, and there was no problem even tuned down to B. Unless you count going wildly out of tune when fretting or strumming.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike wrote:
Both wrong.



+1. Got these on my Jag, Les paul and squier. Work fucking great.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone use heavier than 10s on Japanese Jags and Jazzmasters? I've heard that the spring is too weak to set up the vibrato locking system properly.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used 11-52s on both my Jap Jaguars and the trem spring was fine.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mityushikha wrote:
Does anyone use heavier than 10s on Japanese Jags and Jazzmasters? I've heard that the spring is too weak to set up the vibrato locking system properly.


I think it was aen who put .011-.070s on his Jag. Seemed to work fine.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I stand corrected. Got my JM back and made a A/B test... of course there is a difference... not huge though IMHO...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use Earnie Ball 8's on my strat, going to try Earnie 9's on my cyclone when it needs to be restrung.
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