Joined: 21 Jun 2008 Posts: 3830 Location: Mendocino, CA
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 4:22 am Post subject: Multi-track recording questions
What is the cheapest way of recording a minimum of 6 tracks simultaneously onto a DAW, (garageband or logic in my case) and having these tracks come up on the computer in 6 seperate tracks for mixing? It seems that getting a Behringer Xenyx would be the cheapest, but I was looking at:
It says 6 inputs, but I only see 4. Would this suit my needs? I don't have to have a mixer, I just want to do bare bone drums (4 mics, tracks) and bass and guitar (2 tracks) all at once. Firewire is nice, too.
the S/PDIF In is a digital stereo input. so, another two channels. you need something that outputs digital audio to use it though. like this little mixer for example.........
you cant record all the inputs onto seperate tracks on the PC. It's just the main stereo output through the USB.
Really?? This is essentially my only requirement: to be able to record drums with each mic on a seperate channel in logic. I thought the USB interface would be able to do that... _________________
ahhh, so you would have to create a sub-mix. sucks, but you could still just take some time to get a working drum mix and then just record the stereo mix. it wouldn't be anything like as flexible as if you had all the separate tracks. but it could still work. don't know if you need this interface to do this, you could use literally any cheapo mixer with literally any cheapo two channel interface and get the same results.
Joined: 21 Jun 2008 Posts: 3830 Location: Mendocino, CA
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:16 am Post subject:
Mages wrote:
ahhh, so you would have to create a sub-mix. sucks, but you could still just take some time to get a working drum mix and then just record the stereo mix. it wouldn't be anything like as flexible as if you had all the separate tracks. but it could still work. don't know if you need this interface to do this, you could use literally any cheapo mixer with literally any cheapo two channel interface and get the same results.
Yeah, I have a peavey mixer that I have been connecting via a 1/8 cable to my audio in on my Powerbook. I'm really looking to get the flexibility of multitrack recording... hmm. Any other cheapo mixers or interfaces offer this? The edirol? _________________
well I think beyond four inputs you're moving into more midrange priced gear. stuff like dan recommend or the presonus firestudio or the focusrite saffire pro 40. I just got the focusrite. I don't really have a place to set up my gear right now though so I haven't tried it out yet.
check it out musicians friend has used Saffire Pro 40s for like $350. that's a really good deal. they are usually $500 and they're probably the best option in the their price range IMO.
Joined: 14 Aug 2006 Posts: 5955 Location: Carlsbad, Ca
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:41 am Post subject:
You should also be able to find Presonus Firepods (8 channel) for around 300 or less used Dots and I have both had them.
I used to run a xenyx 2442 into it. The 2442 had direct outs for the first 8 channels, so I used the xenyx as my sound board and then just took the direct outs into the presonus with firewire out to the computer. It gave me an awesome sounding live system that could easily be used for live recording up to 8 chanels at once with almost zero hassle.
Of course, even used, that would run you about 600-700 for the 2 pieces and connecting cables. _________________ They say great minds think alike....Sometimes we do too...
Joined: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 1770 Location: Chicago, USA
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:55 am Post subject:
I have 2 different set ups that I use for recording.
The first one is pci based and uses 4 A/D converters giving me 24 tracks of audio in/out plus 2 midi channels and 2 spdif. 2 of the cards handle 8 audio, 1 midi, 1 spdif each and the other 2 are straight 4 audio in/out. It's all routed through a 24X8 analog mixing desk that I use to preamp the mic signals and return to mix on. It's a major (old school) pain in the ass because I use it the same way I usta' record to tape and it's all routed through patch bays. It also requires a dedicated tower pc (with enough pci slots) to run all 4 cards/breakout boxes, video cards and the recording software.
The second, easier, set up I have is 2 Firepod interfaces that connect to a laptop via firewire. They are self contained and have built in preamps so there is no need for any kind of mixing desk to get input signals to your computer. Running 2 of them daisy chained gives me 16 tracks of audio in/out plus 2 channels of midi and 2 spdif.
The firepod has been replaced by a newer release by Presonus called the Firestudio, but the ones I have still hold up well and will do everything you want. If you can pick one up for cheap you will get 8 xlr/line inputs that you can plug microphones directly into with very little hassle. _________________ Life is "Pointless......but manageable"
Last edited by rodvonbon on Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:12 am; edited 1 time in total
Joined: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 1770 Location: Chicago, USA
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:03 am Post subject:
mickie08 wrote:
You should also be able to find Presonus Firepods (8 channel) for around 300 or less used Dots and I have both had them.
Haha, Mickie beat me to post on the Firepod. It's really a 10 channel converter because it supports 8 audio 1 midi and 1 spdif in/out.
Big bang for the buck. _________________ Life is "Pointless......but manageable"
yeah the firepod. that's the one I was thinking of. I guess they stopped making it though, that's why I couldn't find it. but they do make this little guy with 8 inputs:
Joined: 21 Jun 2008 Posts: 3830 Location: Mendocino, CA
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:35 am Post subject:
Mages wrote:
yeah the firepod. that's the one I was thinking of. I guess they stopped making it though, that's why I couldn't find it. but they do make this little guy with 8 inputs:
Why do they word this in a different language [to me]?
Quote:
ten-input, six-output professional recording system
So -- this can do 8 tracks simultaneously whilst dividing them into 8 individual tracks on the DAW for later mixing? If so, I'm liking the size aspect, though I may go with the firepod for cheapness.
Thanks for all the advice!
EDIT: but the line inputs seemingly done have preamp... eh? _________________
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