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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 6:53 am    Post subject: Drum machines? Reply with quote

anyone use a drum machine at all?? Lookng for something for demos, just to get things down on tape...and suggestions??
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use a Boss/Roland DR 202. S'alright, not a patch on a real drummer but it does the jub for demos.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do all my stuff in midi in an oldass Cakewalk midi programme. If your soundcard is decent and has good midi samples, it'll work fine.

Of course, it's more time consuming and you need to understand a little about notation so you can input your beats, but you'll get exactly what you want the drums to do.

I have a set of simple beats I cut and paste into new projects and alter em to suit, dead easy.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use Redrum on Reason, its a good sounding one, plus you can buy real audio samples to make it sound more realistic if you wanted to. My new fasination is with my Yamaha Keytar its drum beats are great! I Also own a drum set now, so I use the real drums now instead of programs.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I use Redrum on Reason, its a good sounding one, plus you can buy real audio samples to make it sound more realistic if you wanted to.


this, combined with doog's, is good advice. there's little point in having a drum machine these days, although the pads can be cool for programming (might be easier for stage use if you dont have a laptop).

you can get free audio programming software, and then free drum editing software to impliment into it. then you cna program a beat in MIDI, and the midi information triggers the samples you load into the drum software. (thats basically how reason works, but its already implimented and has lots of useable samples in it already.)

I'd suggest you either buy/get reason, or look into the free software thats available. there are a few programs that allow you to make decent VST plug ins, and some people just like sharing, so as a result there are an awful lot of good free vst add-ons for sequencers that will accept them (most do).
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i play drums
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks guys...i'll look into those...unless robroe feels like moving to cleveland
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I use Redrum on Reason, its a good sounding one, plus you can buy real audio samples to make it sound more realistic if you wanted to. My new fasination is with my Yamaha Keytar its drum beats are great! I Also own a drum set now, so I use the real drums now instead of programs.


Me too.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I use Redrum on Reason, its a good sounding one, plus you can buy real audio samples to make it sound more realistic if you wanted to. My new fasination is with my Yamaha Keytar its drum beats are great! I Also own a drum set now, so I use the real drums now instead of programs.


can these be downloaded???
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not legally.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dont rule it out just because theyre not legal though (though i have a feeling you wont). if youre being moral about it, you can get fere software that will be effective still, especially for basic use. you could also just get one crack, and download free software to go with that.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really love my Alesis-SR 16. A little dated, but still a great piece of equipment.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what about garage band for mac anyone used that?? i didnt know i had it on my mac... seems difficult to use
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tremlock wrote:
More Cowbell wrote:
I use Redrum on Reason, its a good sounding one, plus you can buy real audio samples to make it sound more realistic if you wanted to. My new fasination is with my Yamaha Keytar its drum beats are great! I Also own a drum set now, so I use the real drums now instead of programs.


can these be downloaded???
I never answer any question asked using more than one question mark. Sorry.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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what about garage band for mac anyone used that?? i didnt know i had it on my mac... seems difficult to use


I've never actually used it, any mac i've used has had pro tools or logic on it so there was never a need. but i hear its simple and effective. it is a bit of a jump trying to get to grips with software like that, especially if your previous experience was with a 4 track say. but it'snot beyond the reach of most people.

most of what i've heard about garage band is that you can get suprisingly good results from it. sorry i cant help you get started though.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doog wrote:
I do all my stuff in midi in an oldass Cakewalk midi programme. If your soundcard is decent and has good midi samples, it'll work fine.

Of course, it's more time consuming and you need to understand a little about notation so you can input your beats, but you'll get exactly what you want the drums to do.

I have a set of simple beats I cut and paste into new projects and alter em to suit, dead easy.


I have Sonar 2 on my old PC, and I liked the interface. Unfortunately the machine was way too slow. I am considering rebuilding, using that harddrive, where would I go about getting sample for the instruments that it says it has?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bob wrote:
dont rule it out just because theyre not legal though (though i have a feeling you wont). if youre being moral about it, you can get fere software that will be effective still, especially for basic use. you could also just get one crack, and download free software to go with that.


I don't do that at all anymore, because my record got locked up in a cracked version of live. Believe me, spending $400 on a legal version was a lot easier than losing my record.

I don't know how deep you're going to go, but if you're making much of an emotional investment, I'd make a financial one, too.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reason is cool for drum loops. i use an 80's drum machine for baby goats, and i love it. but it's not very realistic sounding. i use it for synth pop sorta stuff. but here's a quick beat i wrote on a friend's song. it kinda sucks on this song, but that's mostly my own fault.
http://www.myspace.com/softsoundrepeating on the song "now"
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so garage band is a fucking gem...pretty easy to figure out, and it sounds great
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

did you use garage band built in loops?
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