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robroe Bon Jovi Fan Club!!1

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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:20 pm Post subject: proper name for reversed power chords? kinda not really |
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a couple weeks ago i discovered that if you invert your index finger and ring finger on a D chord it makes a kind of dissonant E minor droney chord.
in other words
D
x
5
7
x
x
x
to this
E minor?
x
7
5
x
x
x
furthermore if you go up a half step with your ring finger and put your middle finger down in natural postion it makes kind of a weird F sounding chord
F?
x
8
7
x
x
x
then you can keep alternating between the two positions and slide right the neck.
anyone got a name for this shit? _________________
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blacktaxi .


Joined: 02 Oct 2008 Posts: 537 Location: Kyiv, Ukraine
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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your second chord is kind of E7, which sounds more like a minor chord without the third.
the third chord you mentioned is in most cases an F (major).
but, given that you use only two notes for each of these, depending on context they can be completely different chords, because just two notes can not give full definition of a chord. percieved harmony will depend on what notes are played on other instruments.
btw, i think these are called not chords but intervals. _________________ i like chocolate, i like fudge
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Bacchus Whatever's handiest

Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 19278 Location: wandering
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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Those are minor thirds and major thirds. You might recognise the major third from the bottom of open G and C chords.
You know the way you can make an A major chord into an A minor chord by moving one of the notes lower down? That's the difference between a major third and a minor third.
Chords, are usually made up of a root note, or first, a third (major or minor) and a fifth. Powerchords get rid of the third leaving just the root and the fifth. Hence them being called fifth chords. _________________
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Bacchus Whatever's handiest

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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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blacktaxi wrote: |
your second chord is kind of E7, which sounds more like a minor chord without the third. |
I'm not sure where you're getting confused here, but that's entirely not true.
blacktaxi wrote: |
btw, i think these are called not chords but intervals. |
Interval describes the distance between any two notes, and is sort of a loose term that can be used all over the place, whether the two notes are in a chord, in a melody, or even just being talked about. A chord is when any two notes are being played at the same time.
Chords with three notes are usually called triads. Chords with two notes are usually called diads. _________________
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blacktaxi .


Joined: 02 Oct 2008 Posts: 537 Location: Kyiv, Ukraine
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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BacchusPaul wrote: |
blacktaxi wrote: |
your second chord is kind of E7, which sounds more like a minor chord without the third. |
I'm not sure where you're getting confused here, but that's entirely not true.
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looked at rob's transcription once more, and you are right. somehow i saw that as Em7, mostly because i use it often _________________ i like chocolate, i like fudge
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Doog can i get uhhh

Joined: 24 Apr 2006 Posts: 19705 Location: London
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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Why is your tab lefty? Weirdo. _________________ musics |
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DanHeron .


Joined: 24 May 2008 Posts: 3483 Location: Manchester, UK
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, as Paul said, major and minor 3rds.
I sometimes play an Amaj/min chord like (from low to high) X - 0 - 7 - 6/5 - X - X. Major/minot 3rd with the open A string for extra beef.
Or Emaj/minor like 0 - 7 - 6/5 - X - X - X. |
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BillClay .


Joined: 28 Jun 2010 Posts: 1297
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:00 am Post subject: |
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these are literally the only kinds of chords I ever play. |
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DanHeron .


Joined: 24 May 2008 Posts: 3483 Location: Manchester, UK
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:12 am Post subject: |
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I've started playing chords really high up the neck, with lots of open strings. Especially E and A:
E: 0 11 14 13 0 0
A: X 0 11 9 10 0 |
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Bacchus Whatever's handiest

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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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DanHeron wrote: |
I've started playing chords really high up the neck, with lots of open strings. Especially E and A:
E: 0 11 14 13 0 0
A: X 0 11 9 10 0 |
I really like playing C-shape chords up the octave because of the beating you can get with the intonation being slightly out. Actually, I like sliding that shape all over the place and have done for years. I never seem to get bored of it.
I don't like the look of that E chord, too many thirds. If it works, it works, mind. _________________
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