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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nice one Icey! Many thanks!

Have you had any luck with a new pickguard yet? I've been on a mint guard quest myself - updates soon...



no : ( not found nobody can make it for me.

and stills in doubt Mint or Pearloid.
maybe i make both and compare on self guitar. Laughing


if discover someone that can make i am interested
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Icey - I'm waiting on some mint and parchment samples from Sims guitars in the UK. There's a Mint guard by Jeannies on US ebay but to be honest I, and many others, have had bad experiences of them so i'm not going there. Sims will be more expensive but I can send my guard to them and they will cut it exactly for just shy of the 50 mark. Jeannies would cost not far off once postage is taken into account and then more if import tax is charged. Plus the possible agro of it not being exact isn't worth saving a few pounds. When i get the samples through I'll post em up.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

superrr


if you can fix the gaps would be awsome.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

iCEByTes wrote:
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if you can fix the gaps would be awsome.


Gaps around the lipsticks? That's one concern I have about the Lippy humbucker - big ugly gaps around it in a normal HB route.... Maybe I'll see if I can get it cut to follow the shape of the two tubes.

I'm going to round off the lower horn bit too as it's the pointiness that makes it look a bit odd on the JS - not so much the lower curve which actually reflects the curve of the control plate.

Before and after:


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gaps on my pickguard :




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i mean mine. if could find someone for make and send me an fixed. one.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got through my new PG - excellent service and worksmanship by SIMS guys:

Here's a mock up. Nearly ready to get it wired and ready. Not sure if it's too anaemic looking so maybe black knobs, switch and stang swiches..maybe




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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i like the white knobs and don't think it looks aenaemic at all
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks hot! Love the lipsticks with the trem and control plate.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks good

but that red

i would go Fibercarbon pickguard or Black or red tortoise.

i dont like gibson switches , i can do same whiit small switches so i find it unnecessary routing.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys!

Icey - my 'inspiration' for this is deliberatey retro and black PG is too punker for me - this is where I'm coming from Wink:


Yamaha SG-2 1967 by osamu ito, on Flickr

In fact a part of me wanted to subvert the quirky punkerness of the JS and turn it into a more refined looking instrument. I'm toying with an amber switch tip as the ultimate FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU to the world
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ahhh a vintage style.

btw if find dificult in keep in tune the bridge

try find Mad-Mike Mustang bridge guide.

is a Bibble how keep that shit in tune. its works like magic



here is :

http://www.jag-stang.com/forum/topic/922-a-bit-on-how-i-set-my-trem-up-for-whammy-use/
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OKAY! Wiring guidance needed as in, please tell me what to do from beginning to end!! If anyone could be so kind as to draw lines on the picture below that would make life awesome again:

Stang switches: 1 = series, off, split. 2 = Phase, off, out of phase

3way = Humbucker, Both, Single coil,

1 tone, 1 volume (500k)

orange drop cap



One consideration is the whole cavities and guard are shielded so given whatever schematic is used I'm unsure as to how the components interact with the shielding re: grounding etc - so where is it okay to have the parts and pups making contact with the shielding and where should I remove the shielding - like around the pots might be an example, or the pup screws. And grounding - I've retained the bridge thimble ground wire.... I'm way out of my knowledge zone here
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave wrote:
OKAY! Wiring guidance needed as in, please tell me what to do from beginning to end!! If anyone could be so kind as to draw lines on the picture below that would make life awesome again:

Stang switches: 1 = series, off, split. 2 = Phase, off, out of phase

3way = Humbucker, Both, Single coil,

1 tone, 1 volume (500k)

orange drop cap



One consideration is the whole cavities and guard are shielded so given whatever schematic is used I'm unsure as to how the components interact with the shielding re: grounding etc - so where is it okay to have the parts and pups making contact with the shielding and where should I remove the shielding - like around the pots might be an example, or the pup screws. And grounding - I've retained the bridge thimble ground wire.... I'm way out of my knowledge zone here


posted picture of my switches maybe help whit split series parallel.

original schematic maybe helps you whit the potenciometers them you change at switchs








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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Icey! Is your stang wired for series/split and phase options? I'm wondering if the phase option is a useful option or not - is there other things with running the bucker in series and parrelel as well as split/not split? is that even possible on one hb? Damnit i'm lost in options and lack of knowledge!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave wrote:
Thanks Icey! Is your stang wired for series/split and phase options? I'm wondering if the phase option is a useful option or not - is there other things with running the bucker in series and parrelel as well as split/not split? is that even possible on one hb? Damnit i'm lost in options and lack of knowledge!


my phase off is at an push-pull.

the switchs are neck-both-bridge and split-series-parallel.


man i thinking in open all for a maint.

if i do it i will take more pictures and try make a schematic of that wiring style Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wiring 90% done! Still got to get some clarification form the good folks at Guitarnutz forum on grounding and shielding but IT WORKS. I'm posting loads of pics in case anyone can spot any issues.

The whole thang:

IMG_0126 by Davemeister23, on Flickr


IMG_0117 by Davemeister23, on Flickr

The control Plate

IMG_0116 by Davemeister23, on Flickr

The toggle

IMG_0118 by Davemeister23, on Flickr

Both switches, one side

IMG_0121 by Davemeister23, on Flickr

Both switches other side

IMG_0122 by Davemeister23, on Flickr

Both switches above

IMG_0119 by Davemeister23, on Flickr

SINGLE COIL Neck: IN PHASE, OUT OF PHASE, HALF OUT OF PHASE

IMG_0131 by Davemeister23, on Flickr

Single coil: other side

IMG_0123 by Davemeister23, on Flickr

Single coil above

IMG_0124 by Davemeister23, on Flickr

HUMBUCKER: SERIES, SPLIT (NORTH COIL), PARALLEL: Above

IMG_0125 by Davemeister23, on Flickr

Humbucker: another angle

IMG_0120 by Davemeister23, on Flickr

The hand routed not yet fully shielded cavity. All fits fine.

IMG_0128 by Davemeister23, on Flickr
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yah - special mention to EKWatts who kicked my arse into having a shot at this.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks gorgeous m8 , everything extreme detailed , high quality stuff , neat solder joints

superb Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Icey! Very Happy
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Looking good Dave! Cool
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