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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 4:59 pm    Post subject: jagmaster with some mods Reply with quote

I got a Jagmaster quite cheap and am planning to do some mods. Its getting shipped right now, so I dont know what model exact it is, but it comes with a 24 inch neck.
From Jagmaster fotos I see a relatively cheap tremolo system, I think the sustain block is thinner than the standard Strat ones. One possibility is to block it completely or to fill the cavities and install a Mustang or a modified TOM bridge.
..stoptail I dunno, as a Jazzmaster Tremolo needs further wood removed. I surely want to cut the pickguard to a Jaguar-somewhat-style and maybe Fender-wide-range-Humbucker covers.. Cool

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i like where you are going with this

to fit WRHB you will need to mod th guard.. and maybe the body.. i'm not sure

putting in a mustang trem would look awesome.. but would require a bit of work
the most common is a jazzy/jag trem mod, again requires a bit of work

i found that the block on the stock trem to be more stable then that of any strat i've ever owned.. mind my strats have all been squier bullets.. so not really the best comparison.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like that color. A lot.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

its that same transparent green that Ends did his Creature/Jag in and also the Thurston Moore Jazzmaster

it is fucking evil

and by that i mean

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure you'd need to route the body for WRHBs but you may not actually need to . . .

as for blocking a trem, it's not something that requires a lot skill but would take a decent amount of time. you can block them with a piece of 2x4 if you have some small saws, a dremel tool, and sandpaper. you can do it without a dremel, but it certainly helps.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

actually... i can check that now..

i just got a WRHB of the bays... and have a jagmaster...
i'll pull the guard off it tomorrow and check.

(sadly it is just going to be a bit to awkward to go into my bt jazzmaster... so its going in my mig... whenever i finish that.)
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I put the Jazzmaster pickups in my Jagmaster, it only required a bit of routing on the edges. WRHB isn't as wide as a Jazzmaster pickup but is wider the other way. Routing should minimal if even nececessary. I had to route out my Jaguar HH for a WRHB in the bridge position, but the ocean routes in Jagmaster may be larger.

I chose to lock down my tremolo my Jagmaster, but it was already painted so I didn't want to go threw matching paint. If you are started from a striped body, then it won't be so bad.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wont install JM pickups in this jag, I prefer the humbucker with splitting..P90, which I love, look a bit strange on this, sadly..
the green is very similar to the thurston moore one, yeah..a kind of cooler green. The picture I used, is of course the Costello JM, which is of ash, and jags are onkly of basswodd and alder.
I get it today or tomorrow, so Ill check how the trem sounds..
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swimming pool route ftw (for once)
WRHB will fit in the jagmaster with little to no work (well modified pickguard)

i say do it.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JM cavity is as swimming pool as it gets.

The trem is OK but if you want to upgrade, please don't go GFS. Just get a big steel block MIM Fender tremolo. You can find them all day for like $15 on Ebay and they'll drop in no problemo (might have to file a bit of wood for full range of motion) and they say Fender on their saddles. The only slight difficulty is finding an M5 trem arm in anything other than white.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

serfx wrote:
swimming pool route ftw (for once)
WRHB will fit in the jagmaster with little to no work (well modified pickguard)

i say do it.


when normal HB fit, why dont WRHB ?

btw, the tremolo block dont fit right, it is visible some millimeters above the back level.. Surprised
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jamba72 wrote:
when normal HB fit, why dont WRHB ?


WRHB are bigger than standard humbuckers. There are some WRHB-styled humbuckers out there, I know guitar fetish makes some;
http://www.guitarfetish.com/Vintage-Split-Humbucker-Classic-Fender-Style_c_175.html

open these in new tabs;

Fender tele '72 custom
http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0137502306

and a Squier VM tele custom
http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0327502506

by going back and forth between tabs you can see the size difference in WRHB and standard humbuckers
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, the project is goin on..I sanded down the whole body and identified its made of 5 pieces of wood. On top and back there is also a kind of veneer, ash-like..

the question now is, do I sand it down or leave it..
5 pieces dont look perfect., but the grain is more natural. When I leave it, it looks kind of unperfect, too..





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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

paint it
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol 5 piece body! (is it seven pieces if you count the veneers?)

paint it a solid color-- the wood beneath will be annoying esp. if the different woods take the stain differently

can't wait to see what you do here--

I am kind of thinking about throwing away my jagmaster body and just keepin the neck...

maybe get a mustang body instead...

I put 5 springs on my tremolo and its solid/ worry free
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, I hate fake veneers so its history now..Wink

I like the wood, maybe I stain it very dark, I prefer natural finishes over solid ones.






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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cool-- it looks fine w/out the veneer!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol, i think that's better looking grain than the veneer.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, looks quite ok..Im nor sure about the color..a darker sunburst would be possible, too..to cover the edges a bit.
Ive been doin hard oil finis on some guitars which feels nice and is not complicated at all.

or a nice poo trans brown? Wink


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jamba72 wrote:
well, I hate fake veneers so its history now..Wink


How were these veneers fake?


It does look a lot better now.
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