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NGD - 1967 Fender Coronado II (pics heavy)
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James
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that one I posted with the humbuckers and too much black must be a refin because the switch is in the wrong place and the amount of black would be used to cover the old hole.

Mine has the standard circular nut. I've not noticed a hex one before.


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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it works out to be no more expensive than buying a JM/Jag arm, the guy who does the stay trem has Coronado arms for sale: LINK!
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coronados are diffIcult to date due to low sales and later guitars being made from bits left over from previous years or in the Antigua case, using bodies where the binding burnt the wood and meant other finishes weren't possible. If you can check the pots as well as the neck this will give you a better idea. Serial numbers are not a good indication but a guide.

Also great guitar for the price
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice pick up

just pull the neck and you will know

but it is likely an early one with checkered binding and the 5xx serial number

but: the black covered dearmond pick ups , i only have seen them on later coornado never on early coronados

but again, everything is possible with fender back then
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jaded wrote:
If it works out to be no more expensive than buying a JM/Jag arm, the guy who does the stay trem has Coronado arms for sale: LINK!


Thanks. I was considering getting Stay-trem for my Jazzmaster, so I can get this trem arm as well.
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the neck plates on coronados all seem to be stamped with numbers that point to the early 70s. go by the neck date. i'd reckon mid to late '67 at a guess. the nut around the switch doesn't look original, but it's no big deal.

mine has the checked binding and all-chrome pickups, and is dated JAN67.
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theres a trem arm on UK ebay:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tremolo-arm-fit-Fender-Coronado-/180889690988?pt=UK_Guitar_Accessories&var=&hash=item6fcaa8ce17#ht_2555wt_823
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow nice deal!!
This is a true hollow body right? How does it respond to higher gain?
Beautiful instrument.
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bloodbank wrote:
This is a true hollow body right? How does it respond to higher gain?


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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great score!!
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I finally tore down the Coronado to answer the all important question of what actual year my guitar was born



The one thing that I didn't know was that the bridge is not attached to the body, but merely sitting on top of the body under the tension of the strings. I was not expecting that.

I am going to string it up with .11s so I adjusted the truss rod and put in a new shim under the neck. I guess I have to measure and make sure the bridge is sitting in the right spot before I tighten it down.

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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome!! Question answered. Very Happy Even better score now.
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

taylornutt wrote:


- Stewart's

- Mine

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Mine doesn't have that neck pocket angle and I had to shim the jenkins out of it to get it to have a low action and clear the pickups. I spent about an hour playing with the father-in-law's callipers (ooo er) before finding a combination of smaller shims that gave a decent angle. Yours looks about right to start off. Judging by that and the pickups I think you have an earlier neck on a slightly later body. Maybe check the pot codes if you're curious, though you have to go through the pickup cavity so it would be a pain to do.


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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should add - if you do remove the pickups be extremely careful with the black plastic bases. They'll be brittle by now and can fall apart easily.
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I will leave the pickups be. Superglue didn't work for filling the loose strap hole. Going to fill it and reinstall later.
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GASP! TWINSIES!

Nice tits on that neck pocket, James.
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got her put back together. She has .11s now it so it feels better. I may take the neck off later and play with the shim to get the action lower once I stretch the strings out.

I put wood filler in the hole for the strap button and it is solid as a rock now. Just took a while to dry.

I am still kinda puzzled by the fact the bridge is simply being pressed down against the wood top with no padding or anything to keep it from moving.

Does anyone else have a Coronado with a bridge like mine and the tremolo? I was just making sure I was not missing a part or something. Even the tremolo has rubber feet to make contact with the top of the guitar.

My main concern is damaging the top of the guitar and overall playability.



Metal feet holding the bridge directly contacting the wood

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mine has the same body, and serial number range




but is a april 66



i always seen this combination (serial number and checkered bindings) without vibrato tailpiece and with shiny pick ups

in any case it is beuatifull your guitar
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just finished reading the thread about your guitar.

I notice the Coronado IIs with the non-tremolo tailpiece like yours have a different mounting for the bridge.

Does your bridge mount to the body? I noticed yours has foam or wood pieces under the bridge.
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just noticed something odd about my Coronado. It appears that the neck pickup has been rotated 180 degrees. The little pointed part of the pickup is pointing towards the neck instead of towards the bridge.

Any idea, apart from someone just being dumb, would someone flip the neck pickup around like that?

Will it change the sound if I rotate the pickup back to it's normal orientation?

Typical 1967 Coronado II


My 1967 Coronado II

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