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George · . Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 20945 Location: UK

Anyone hybrid pick here?

You hold a pick in thumb and first finger, then finger pick with your second and third (and eventually fourth I imagine) finger. I've just started tonight and shit is hard. Any tips or exercises?

benecol · Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:20 pm Post subject:

It's something I mess around with; I've got an insanely difficult guitar book called 'Masters of the Telecaster', and that's got some great hybrid picking things in.

Mo Law-ka · Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:29 pm Post subject:

Just try not to over-think it. I started doing it (albeit a bit cack-handedly) as a way to get around string skips. It may help if you start with a thumbpick then "progress" to hybrid picking.
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Gabriel · . Joined: 11 Apr 2010 Posts: 3168 Location: NYC

Hybrid picking is one of the main parts of my playing style. The way I learnt how to hybrid pick is through playing through all of the Giuliani picking exercises - 10 a day until I had completed all 120 - but refingering the right hand to incorporate a pick. I use every free finger on my right hand in order to play big chords too. I have always played a bit of fingerstyle, but I wasn't very good. However after spending a couple of weeks focussing on the picking exercises I'm very confident at hybrid picking now.

Check out the exercises - I posted a thread with them a while ago.

If you need any help just shoot me a pm and I'll whip up a couple of youtube exercises.

Dave · Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:02 pm Post subject:

Gabriel · . Joined: 11 Apr 2010 Posts: 3168 Location: NYC

George · . Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 20945 Location: UK

That would be ace! This is something I'm determined to crack for the 12 string and other jangles. The current ombination of thumb and bass strings just makes things sound muddy and farty.

Gabriel · . Joined: 11 Apr 2010 Posts: 3168 Location: NYC

Here we go, page 1 of the right hand studies in tab. Open both this and the original in order to get accurate right hand directions.

For the purpose of developing hybrid right hand studies, we will be taking these definitions of right hand symbols:

P - Pick
i - Middle finger
m - Ring finger
a - Pinky

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/86947283/120%20Right%20Hand%20Studies%20TAB%20pg1.pdf

Gabriel · . Joined: 11 Apr 2010 Posts: 3168 Location: NYC

Also there are only two chords for the entire studies so once you learn those shapes the notation is irrelevant as long as you understand which notes are to be picked. So in theory after learning page one with tab, all the notes will have been covered, so you should be able to get some notation under your belt too.

The best way to approach these exercises is with a steady metronome click - if you don't have one buy one. Otherwise for now use http://www.metronomeonline.com

Find a tempo you are comfortable and stick with it for all of the exercises. For me I found 80bpm particularly comfy as it is my sort of 'home' speed, I start all exercises at this tempo.

Dave · Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:14 am Post subject:

Amazing! I really appreciate this Gabriel, thank you.
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George · . Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 20945 Location: UK

Hmm I shall have a go at this tonight, thanks!

Admittedly it's taken me years to even be at the stage where I can play with my thumb, first and second fingers. I was hoping to only introduce my third finger with this. Adding the pinky as is going to be well 'ard. Might just adapt it for without pinky for now.

Gabriel · . Joined: 11 Apr 2010 Posts: 3168 Location: NYC

Here is a video lesson on the first 8 studies.

Link

If you need any more clarity on anything just let me know and I'll try to sort it out.

George · . Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 20945 Location: UK

Awesome! Thanks for that. I'm having a go but I think I really need to work on my initial muscle memory in my 3rd and 4th finger cos I'm flapping all over the place. This is going to take TIME.

Dave · Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:06 pm Post subject:

Just practiced first lesson both finger and hybrid. Love it.
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Gabriel · . Joined: 11 Apr 2010 Posts: 3168 Location: NYC

Ace, glad you guys are digging this stuff. I've found hybrid picking an invaluable skill to learn as it's opened up a whole new approach to playing.

If you can find the time to spend 20-30 minutes a day working methodically through the exercises you will see some real progress. I recommend keeping a practice diary so you can see how you are progressing - this has been the most important part of my development over the past 3-4 months as I've been able to log every piece of work I've done.

George · . Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 20945 Location: UK

My ring and little fingertips HURT today. I need to kill the nerves in them and build some muscle strength.

Do those gripmaster things actually work? I'm considering getting one.

paul_ · . Joined: 27 Jul 2006 Posts: 9756

Nice one Gabriel
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Fran · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:31 pm Post subject:

Good stuff. I'll take a better look at this another day, its something I'd like to dabble with instead of my cack-handed fingerpicking style I developed through lack of patience and supervision.

hybridhero · . Joined: 07 Nov 2012 Posts: 1

Interesting thread.
I'm having trouble developing my pinky on my picking hand when playing hybrid style, and I've decided that if I get round to playing Carcassi's study number 7 really well, then I can truly say that I have a good handle on "pick plus three fingers" hybrid playing.
BTW, Carcassi's 25 classical guitar studies - in standard music notation - are freely available on the web, but I'm not sure if a tab version is also available for free.