Joined: 09 Jun 2008 Posts: 10325 Location: UK - Southampton
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 8:46 am Post subject: The ultimate list of cheap copies of great pedals thread!
Lets create an ultimate master list of all those cheaper copies of otherwise legendary or boutique pedals. Let's do this list by 'type' rather than by brand (EDIT - Actually that's only practical for the 'Unique' pedals so for things like the whole range of Behringer I'll include specific brand lists where appropriate). I'll start the ball rolling and I'll update this list as we go
A NOTE ON MORALS: There are good arguments to made for and against some of these clones and copies. I personally do not know what the factory conditions are like, you might want to put your money locally to homegrown companies, you might not want to buy a clone of a design developed by an independent builder , and might not want to give your money directly to a company like Danelectro when thier CEO contributed his personal money to the anti-gay/Prop 8 organizations (SEE DETAILS IN REPLY BY TUKK04 FURTHER DOWN THE THREAD). These are just some things you may or may not like to consider when buying any of the pedals listed here. There are definitely arguments for and against buying the cheapest option (including the mundane issues such as build quality, quality control, as well as materials and components used). Feel free to discuss any of this here - if you hear of important information that might further inform how we spend our money then all the better.
BY SPECIFIC PEDAL
Demeter Tremulator
Danelectro Cool Cat Trem
electro-harmonix Deluxe Memory Man
Behringer VM1 Vintage Time Machine
electro-harmonix Big Muff
Mooer Triangle Buff
electro-harmonix Metal Muff
JOYO JF-17 Extreme Metal
electro-harmonix Electric Mistress
Mooer Eleclady
electro-harmonix Pog 2/Micro Pog
Mooer Pure Octave
Foxx Tone Machine
Danelectro French Toast Octave Fuzz
Fulltone OCD
JF-02 Ultimate Drive
Freekish Blues Alpha Drive (RE-BADGED JOYO ULTIMATE DRIVE WITH SOME COMPONANT SWAPS AND BIG PRICE TAG)
Mooer Hustle Drive
Danelectro CoolCat Drive V1
Paul Cochrane Timmy- Please note you may wish to support an independent builder as a moral decision as this is his livelihood after all, and Danelectro hate gays. Or get the TOD v1 and if you like it save up for the TIMMY? Up to you.
Danelectro CoolCat Transparent Overdrive Version 1
ProCo RAT
Mooer Black Secret
GFS Brownie or Biyang Mouse (same pedal...LM308 Rat clone. NOTE: Some versions were shipped with incorrect 56k resistor - shoule be 560ohm resister. Can be fixed. see here
Mooer Ensemble King = Boss CE2
Mooer Ana Echo = Boss DM2
Mooer Twin Looper = Boss RC20?
Mooer Eleclady = EHX Electric Mistress
Mooer Triangle Buff = EHX Triangle Muff
Mooer Hustle Drive = Fulltone OCD
Mooer Green Mile = Ibanez TS9
Mooer Cruncher = MI Audio Crunchbox
Mooer Blue Comp = Boss CS2
Mooer Ninety Orange = MXR Phase 90
Mooer Black Secret = RAT
Mooer Solo = Suhr Riot?
Mooer Bass Sweeper = ?
Mooer Blade = ?
Mooer Blue Faze = ?
Mooer Blues Crab = Marshall Bluesbreaker
Mooer Echolizer = ?
Mooer Flex Boost = Xotic AC Boost
Mooer Pitch Box = ?
Mooer Pure Boost = Xotic RC Boost
Mooer Pure Octave = [i]EHX Micro Pog/Pog 2
Mooer Reecho = Boss DD2
Mooer ShimVerb = Strymon Blue Sky
Mooer Trelicopter = Demeter Tremulator
Mooer Super Bender = ?
Mooer Little Monster AC = ?
Mooer Ultra Drive = ?
DANELECTRO COPY LIST - PLEASE NOTE THE DANELECTRO CEO HAS CONTRIBUTED PERSONAL MONEY TOWARDS ANTI GAY/PROP 8 ORGANIZATIONS. PLEASE READ THE POST BY 'TUKK04' IN THE REPLIES BELOW FOR SOME EXCELLENT DETAIL ON THE SITUATION THAT MAY HELP YOU DECIDE WHETHER TO BUY NEW OR SECOND HAND
*Supposed Clones* list sourced from http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=975874
Cool Cat Trem - Demeter Tremulator clone
Transparent OD v1 - Paul C Timmy
Daddy-O Overdrive - Marshall Guv'nor
Cool Cat Drive - Fulltone OCD
Fish n Chips - Boss GE-7 (?)
Dano French Toast Octave Fuzz= Foxx Tone Machine- (possibly same pedal designer for both, according to Bluedano1)
Dano Cool Cat Fuzz V.1 = Frantone Peachfuzz
FAB 1 Distortion - Boss DS-1
FAB 2 Overdrive - Nadine Overdrive
FAB Tone Distortion - Boss MT-2 _________________
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Last edited by Dave on Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:06 pm; edited 33 times in total
Joined: 30 Aug 2011 Posts: 6010 Location: Strung up to the lemons
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 12:31 pm Post subject:
finboy wrote:
Does joyo make a clone of the tech21 Oxford?
The Oxford is an Orange sim isn't it? Don't think Joyo/Harley Benton make ones of those currently. They just make the Fender, Vox, Marshall and Mesa-Boogie ones. _________________
Fran wrote:
I love how this place is basic as fuck.
ekwatts wrote:
I'm just going to smash it in with a hammer and hope it works. Tone is all in the fingers anyway.
trouble is with some of these, behringers mostly as far as i'm aware, the buffers can be a bit sucky. i can't really vouch for all the pedals but the buffer on the vintage delay pedal woolied my tone a bit and rolled off some volume/high end
Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 3515 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 3:56 pm Post subject:
I've got the danophobe OCD, Timmy, and peach fuzz clone, all are quite good and can be had for a good price if you ignore all of the "rare! V1, etc." ads that are asking $50 for the damn things
Oh - I think there is also a video by "Short Scale Mike" IIRC where he has a scratchbuilt Rat with the Ruetz control in it. I think he kind of explained it fairly well, but it's been some time since I saw it.
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iCEByTes wrote:
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I'm gonna add the Dano Cool Cat Trem is a Demeter Tremulator clone.
I'm also going to say though I don't like that dano's CEO spent money on something that is being used in an attempt to force his and the opinion of people with similar views on others, I will still buy danelectro if they are selling a product I want. He is not the only employee of danelectro and his views don't, in actuality, represent the views of every person that works for the company. Boycotting the company is not going to hurt Mr.Ridinger, just like boycotts don't hurt most upper tier employees, but it will result in pay cuts and less hirings at the factory laborer level, not because they are an evil company, but because that's what a business has to do to keep going when profits are down.
If it makes you feel any better about purchasing from them, Danelectro (the entire company, not just the CEO) continuously donates to multiple charities, one of the main ones being SKJ Orphanage in Nairobi, Kenya. Their contributions have directly led to the orphanage being able to purchase 2 acres of additional land and drill a large water well that is capable of supplying the orphanage and surrounding areas with thousands of liters of water per hour.
Also take note of the fact that Mr.Ridinger's donations made for prop-8 were from his personal savings and was not at the expense of danelectro or evets corp.
Other notable donations toward anti-gay marriage prop 8-relevant organizations include $6,000 from Cisco Systems Executive Charles Stucki, $10,001 from Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Novatel Wireless Peter Leparulo, $40,000 from Intel's (yes, that Intel) Finance Specialist Richard Patterson, and $9,999 from President and CEO of Cinemark Alan Stock.
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