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Fender Jaguars are really poorly designed and impossible....
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Fran
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They moved the trem forward on the MIM models, they are quite a solid ready-to-go guitar actually from what i remember of Mikes.

There are that many Jaguar models now if you like the looks you should be able to find one that suits. Its a far cry from the days of making extensive youtube videos on how to make the bridge usable Laughing

Hurb, i thought you had either hit an early midlife crisis or was messing around. Still, there was some truth in what you said.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fran wrote:


Hurb, i thought you had either hit an early midlife crisis or was messing around. Still, there was some truth in what you said.


Haha I must admit I stick with what I said about the sponge under the pickups that is a bit of a crap effort on fenders part. Everything else I love about the Jaguar.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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apart from changing strings i haven't done a damn thing to my jag since hurb set it up when i first got it. still plays fine.

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Don't you have a new Jaguar? I can do that one next time you come round!


yeah, plan on getting a staytrem bridge and a locking tailpiece, then it'll be giggable.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Fran wrote:


Hurb, i thought you had either hit an early midlife crisis or was messing around. Still, there was some truth in what you said.


Haha I must admit I stick with what I said about the sponge under the pickups that is a bit of a crap effort on fenders part. Everything else I love about the Jaguar.
The mute is pretty much useless as well.

I used to love tinkering with the Jag, i think they are really easy to work on the electronics due to all the separate plates. Unlike a Strat were you have to basically take the strings off and everything. Oh, and them fretboards with the overhang that traps the scratchplate so you have to take the fookin neck off to clean the pots wtf Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the mute is about the only part of the jag i would agree just doesn't work in any way, shape or form that i can get on with. everything else has found some reason to be there for me. i play the hh a lot more often than i do the avri since the p90's are just so versatile. it actually makes the times i do pull out the avri more special. i do feel like i am wielding masterfully designed, ancient weapon when i play it. everything about the jags was more difficult than most any other guitar. those of us into that, though, kind of relish the added .001% of strain it puts on life once you're used to and aware of how the ways of dealing with it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love Jags overall, but in practice it wasn't until I installed a Mustang bridge with some aluminum tube bits around the bridge posts so as to fix the bridge position that I could get it to set up and be able to be played with any vigor. Though I still don't use it as a stage guitar, just too much shit that can go wrong with it mid-set.

I have used it in an arty noise band live a few times but that's about all I can deal with. I love the shape but it's too impractical. The Blacktop jag seems to be a better design.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no issues with the floating bridge and stability.
That said, I did move to a Mustang Bridge and since have been having low E saddle-jumping issues. With the Mustang saddles, if I play with any vigour at all, the low E pops out of the groove. I didn't have this issue with the stock bridge... but since switching and swapping it back, I cant keep the low E in place on it neither. It's annoying as itchy balls... and makes no sense.

Is the tail width of an American trem a little wider than a Japanese? The constriction of string spacing at the anchor pulling the E towards centre a bit seems to be the issue. I don't think they're different, but I may as well ask.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pens wrote:
The Blacktop jag seems to be a better design.


ha, strangely enough i end up having to lock trems, tape off switches etc on my jags to make them as solid as possible for live use, but i'd still never buy a blacktop jag because they look fucking shit.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having taped off all of the switches and still managing to hit them the wrong way and have my guitar cut out mid-song live makes me willing to deal with anything as long as there aren't so many fucking switches to accidentally hit. I accept that I'm possibly not the target player for the guitar, they just don't seem to lend themselves to being played as vigorously as I tend to do. Either way, that's why I don't play it live anymore, and find the BT Jag to be an excellent design.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I knew this was fake because if Hurb was swearing off the jagz I know damn well he'd PM me so I could get dat 69 back from him.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pens wrote:
Having taped off all of the switches and still managing to hit them the wrong way and have my guitar cut out mid-song live makes me willing to deal with anything as long as there aren't so many fucking switches to accidentally hit. I accept that I'm possibly not the target player for the guitar, they just don't seem to lend themselves to being played as vigorously as I tend to do. Either way, that's why I don't play it live anymore, and find the BT Jag to be an excellent design.


wedge some snipped off cigarette filters in the switch gap before taping it, and flip the switch plate round so that if you DO nudge one, it switches the pickup on rather than off. the downside is, if you ever need to change pickups you end up peeling gaffa tape and bits of filter off your guitar like a dolt.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dreamt I had an olympic white Jag (possibly Squier) with maple neck last night. Then i woke up and didn't Sad
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 66 is prone to string breaking, but only in freakout noise guitar solos. Unfortunately those happen at most of my gigs. It is my main gigging guitar though, nothing cuts through the mix like a Jag, nothing looks better than a Jag, nothing feels like a Jag.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last time I set up my jag, I used Loctite on the bridge post screws to keep them from lowering all the time due to my excessive use of the reverb handle. It worked perfectly.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had my MIJ HH for a close to a year and a half. It seems the better the tuner I use the easer I get it in tune. And it sounds great. I have got to do its intonation soon its still factory set. (I put a tremolo on it last year and its still sounds bitchen.) I did my Les Paul's intonation last week just fine. So I can count on that tuner.

Yes Jag's are a bit tweekie and if you surf the short scale sites you'll pick up on some great info to fix the odd problems you'll face with your Jag. Everything from string angles between the tail piece and bridge to freaky custom wiring. Spock it out. I use a shitload of info from these sites and I all ready know what to expect from the AVRI 62 I have on layaway and already know how to fix the problems. I just hope I won't have to use a buzz stop.

I just love my MIJ HH, its one of the coolest looking, weardest wired, guitars I've ever seen and my short fingers can play. I've got a 89 Les Paul special and a 2010 HSS AM. Special Stratocaster. I love them. BUT! I can't play them for a damn. There scale is to long. So I'm glad I found a Jag and I can play it.

Now if your just pissed off and hate your Jag sell it off and get another guitar you like and get happy. Is that what we play guitar for?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ it was really more of a joke, hurb, the author is a jaguar enthusiast. he has some points, but in reality he was just having a laugh.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, I see a bit of dry humor, LOL. Jags are odd ball in the guitar world. Another good thing about them.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 3:58 am    Post subject: Re: Fender Jaguars are really poorly designed and impossible Reply with quote

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Anyway sorry guys I was a bit bored the other day.


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