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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 2:43 pm    Post subject: Custom Color Bronco ? Reply with quote

I was offered a Lake Placid Blue 1967 Bronco......supposedly all original custom factory order. I wasn't aware that the Bronco was offered as a custom order, but as a standard production combo package targeted towards student players ?

After looking at the pictures, it appeared to be a refin for a couple of reasons..... but back then could you order a custom color on a Bronco ?

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never heard of it. But there is one on eBay right now. Most likely the same one you are talking about.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was one in the same. It was offered prior to the auction.

Ithought since I didn't see much fading of the finish compared to what was under the pickguard, some evidence of what appeared to be Dakota Red in the screw holes, and the neck pocket completely painted over, it is probably a refin..

Did you see the pics ????
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a cool color but I have never seen that offered from the factory. It would be a great guitar if you don't pay too much.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree it's a great color, but a refin of a color not offered to that model doesn't do much for me personaly.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the pics I am pretty sure I saw smog red under the neck pocket, likely refin
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah it's a refin but if it is a good refin then it is probably worth that $500. To me at least.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can someone put a link up?
I had a look on USA ebay and couldn't find a blue Bronco. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sold yesterday.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did a completed listings search earlier...
Found it now though.
Looks good, though as Finboy points out, it has traces of red paint.
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-1967-American-Fender-Bronco-electric-guitar-Rare-Lake-Placid-Blue-/00/s/OTAwWDE2MDA=/z/2HAAAOxyUrZSoh1-/$_57.JPG
The tuners are cleaner and the headstock less suntanned than my Bronco though.
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-1967-American-Fender-Bronco-electric-guitar-Rare-Lake-Placid-Blue-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/GhQAAOxyNo9Soh05/$_57.JPG

Reminds me, I should probably take the neck off mine to check the date stamp.
I need to change the strings really, so I'll check then.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

didn't bassingdan (can't remember his screen name) have something like that?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree custom color unlikely but the red undercoat isn't convincing proof on that score -

it was very common for Fender to put a custom color over a standard color.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sidney Vicious wrote:


it was very common for Fender to put a custom color over a standard color.


Now that I did not know.....!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldcanuck wrote:
Sidney Vicious wrote:


it was very common for Fender to put a custom color over a standard color.


Now that I did not know.....!


All I know I learned from the internet -

http://home.provide.net/~cfh/fenderc.html

From the link:

Fender also used Sunburst (or other colors) as an undercoat to custom colors. Fender probably had an ample supply of reject Sunburst (and custom color) finished bodies that had some flaw (remember, all these guitars were painted by humans, not machines). It can be assumed that the majority of custom color finishes over other finishes are probably rejected bodies. Stripping an existing bad finish to apply another is just too much work. So shooting a new custom color over a bad finish would be killing two birds with one stone. You use up those bad Sunburst bodies without stripping, and charge 5% more for the new custom color to cover the cost of painting the same body twice (or more).


And sometimes Fender did all the above: sprayed a custom color over a white primer undercoat, over a Sunburst finish. A case in point would be the 100% original 1961 Fiesta Red Strat to the left. It's Fiesta Red, over Dakota Red, over a white primer undercoat, over Sunburst! It was probably just a series of bad paint mistakes. Fender started with a "bad" sunburst body, then sprayed a white primer undercoat (to save expensive red paint). Then they sprayed the Dakota Red (without a clear coat), and probably accidentally buffed through the red. So Fender just sprayed the Fiesta Red right over the Dakota Red (maybe Fiesta Red was already in the spray gun that day). No clear coat was used over the Fiesta Red either.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Punkacc9 wrote:
Yeah it's a refin but if it is a good refin then it is probably worth that $500. To me at least.


No way. For a refin? That's crazy talk. You never know what kind of patch job it could be hiding.

All the allegedly "real" Fender factory refins I've ever seen had pretty clear routes and neck pockets.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sidney Vicious wrote:
It's Fiesta Red, over Dakota Red, over a white primer undercoat, over Sunburst!


I had an apartment where the walls were like that.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldcanuck wrote:
Sidney Vicious wrote:


it was very common for Fender to put a custom color over a standard color.


Now that I did not know.....!


yeah, my jag is CAR over sunburst.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if that thing went for around 500 bucks, it's a steal anyway. the bridge on it is worth almost half that.
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