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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:19 pm    Post subject: String gauge help! Reply with quote

Hi,
Yesterday, I bought a second hand Fender Pawn Shop Mustang and I love it. Before this I had been accustomed to playing a Mexican tele with 9 gauge strings. I'm not sure what gauge the shop put on the guitar but I am considering putting 9s on it, however I have heard that 10s or 11s are best to put on a short scale guitar.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 9:44 pm    Post subject: Re: String gauge help! Reply with quote

lakeplacid wrote:
Hi,
Yesterday, I bought a second hand Fender Pawn Shop Mustang and I love it. Before this I had been accustomed to playing a Mexican tele with 9 gauge strings. I'm not sure what gauge the shop put on the guitar but I am considering putting 9s on it, however I have heard that 10s or 11s are best to put on a short scale guitar.
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On a 24" scale 11s have the same slinkyness as 9s on a 25.5" scale (telecaster, strat etc)

The strings obviously feel thicker but you shouldn't have too much issue
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^^What he said^^^
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would disagree with that. 9s on 25.5" is more like 10s or even 9.5 on a 24", but its personal preference anyway
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I'd go for 10s. But do whatever is most comfortable, you won't know until you try either.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd go with at least 10s on a 24" scale, maybe 11s. You might think about trying a skinny top/heavy bottom type set (10-52 or so) to start out. The high strings will still be very bendable, and you'll have better tension on the low ones.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FWIW, I use 10s on my Jazzmaster and 11s on my mustang, but that's for the same tuning (half step down). Right now I'm actually using a set of 13s with a wound G on the 'stang, but that's because I've been recording with it for songs that require C# and A# detuning (three and six half steps down, respectively). I'm not sure the guitar could actually handle strings of that gauge in standard tuning, and I probably wouldn't be able to play it if it did!

The short answer is use whatever's comfortable, but my personal experience matches what George said above. 11s should be okay but 10s should be fine too.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's apply some science.

http://www.shortscale.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=741368

NickS wrote:
Scale length vs. string dia. A Stratocaster is 25.5" scale, a Swinger or 3/4 scale Mustang is 22.5" scale, a 12% drop. Keeping frequency and tension the same, you want (mass/unit length) x (length)2 constant. But mass/unit length is proportional to diameter2, so that means you want to keep length x diameter constant - so 12% increase in diameter. Seems to me that to keep the same tension on a 22.5" 3/4 scale as on your 25.5" longscale a change from .010"s to .011"s is about right.

Moving from a Strat to a 24" scale Jaguar, 6% drop in length, maybe you want to think about upping from .010"s to those fancy .0105"s some string-makers sell. Otherwise you'll need a 12% decrease in tension.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

10-52s have given me my greatest success with Jag setups so far, not that I really had problems with 10-48s or 11-48s, it's just a nice feel to me.

I had no idea so many people were trying to make their shortscales feel more full-scale tho.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love the DR DDT Big Heavey 10/52's for short scales.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

really depends on what you prefer, in all honesty. i like the extra beef of 10's on 25.5" necks, and 11's on 24' necks work out nicely as well. i've known dudes who prefer 8's and 9's respectively, and they're way more skilled guitar players than i.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use 10's on pretty much everything. 11's are ok and I have used them. 9's feel too thin for my preference. I would go with what you like. Best Buy sells strings for $3. Could always try some out and see what feels best.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NickS wrote:
Let's apply some science.

http://www.shortscale.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=741368

NickS wrote:
Scale length vs. string dia. A Stratocaster is 25.5" scale, a Swinger or 3/4 scale Mustang is 22.5" scale, a 12% drop. Keeping frequency and tension the same, you want (mass/unit length) x (length)2 constant. But mass/unit length is proportional to diameter2, so that means you want to keep length x diameter constant - so 12% increase in diameter. Seems to me that to keep the same tension on a 22.5" 3/4 scale as on your 25.5" longscale a change from .010"s to .011"s is about right.

Moving from a Strat to a 24" scale Jaguar, 6% drop in length, maybe you want to think about upping from .010"s to those fancy .0105"s some string-makers sell. Otherwise you'll need a 12% decrease in tension.


We'll have none of your science around here!

That post has me thinking of something else that might deserve it's own thread.
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