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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 11:37 pm    Post subject: Custom Shop '51 Nocaster Reply with quote

Just when I thought I'm done buying guitars I see this (link)









2006 Fender Custom Shop '51 Nocaster

Body Color: Coral Pink

Body Material: 2 PC ASH

Body Finish: Lacquer

Tuners: Vintage

Bridge Assembly: 51 Nocaster

Control Assembly: 51 Nocaster

Knob: 51 Nocaster

Neck Pickup: 51 Nocaster Neck Pickup

Bridge Pickup: 51 Nocaster Bridge Pickup

Custom 60s Tele Neck

Shape: Mid 60s style Oval C

Fingerboard Radius: 7.25

Neck Thickness at 1st fret: .790

Neck Thickness at 12th fret: .930

Neck Blank Guitar: Maple Plain Grain

Side Dot: Micarta White 3/32

Face Dot: Micarta White .250

Fret Wire: Vintage Gutiar

Truss Rod: 60s

Nut: STD FB Blank

Neck Finish: Nitrocellulose Lacquer

Fingerboard: Rosewood Indian 6MM

Standard 51 Nocaster pickguard

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 12:57 am    Post subject: Re: Custom Shop '51 Nocaster Reply with quote

westtexasred wrote:
Just when I thought I'm done buying guitars


ROFL
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha,I really tried.Ah well fuck it. You know what Ekhardt Tolle says..."Resist nothing". That's The Power of Now.

Anyway,I think my compulsion to buy this guitar is is linked this photo of an original Tahitian Coral Stratocaster which I first saw a couple of years ago.



It's a color you don't see often and I think it looks even better the way it has amber-ed on this Blackguard.



The rosewood fretboard with clay dots is the icing on the cake. That is why I couldn't resist bidding.



Seriously,that has to be one of the coolest CS teles I have seen.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:11 am    Post subject: Re: Custom Shop '51 Nocaster Reply with quote

Nick wrote:
westtexasred wrote:
Just when I thought I'm done buying guitars


ROFL

Yeah, I thought you were just into buying cheapies now.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

westtexasred wrote:
Ah well fuck it.

Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's very nice and cool as frig but I find the designation "Nocaster" confusing when combined with a 60s neck. What's Nocastery about apart from it not saying Telecaster on the headstock?

Or rather, how is this not a 60s tele with Nocaster pickups?

It is gorgeous though.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please don't ever stop buying guitars. I live vicariously through you.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha,thanks. Here is a photo of the neck

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will you ever do an demo?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bacchus wrote:
It's very nice and cool as frig but I find the designation "Nocaster" confusing when combined with a 60s neck. What's Nocastery about apart from it not saying Telecaster on the headstock?

Or rather, how is this not a 60s tele with Nocaster pickups?

It is gorgeous though.


I resisted posting this EXACTLY for fear of seeming trainspotty but yeah. It actually is like a Nocaster with a '60s Tele neck stuck on it given the bridge hardware (and bakelite/flatheads, to get a little nerdier) but the neck pretty much makes a Fender... especially a Strat/Tele where everything else apart from electrical component tolerances (which accounts for 50s/60s pickups) is almost guaranteed to be the same.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DO AN DEMO NOW.

THAT THING IS SO FUCKIN 80'S HOLY SHIT.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

robroe wrote:
THAT THING IS SO FUCKIN 80'S


Personally struck me as '70s looking. And it's spec'd from 50s/60s parts.

THESIS: hodge-podge
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

paul_ wrote:
Bacchus wrote:
It's very nice and cool as frig but I find the designation "Nocaster" confusing when combined with a 60s neck. What's Nocastery about apart from it not saying Telecaster on the headstock?

Or rather, how is this not a 60s tele with Nocaster pickups?

It is gorgeous though.


I resisted posting this EXACTLY for fear of seeming trainspotty but yeah. It actually is like a Nocaster with a '60s Tele neck stuck on it given the bridge hardware (and bakelite/flatheads, to get a little nerdier) but the neck pretty much makes a Fender... especially a Strat/Tele where everything else apart from electrical component tolerances (which accounts for 50s/60s pickups) is almost guaranteed to be the same.


Yep, but a 60s neck wouldn't be a Nocaster neck and would say Telecaster on it.

I suppose that's the point of the Custom Shop though, that they can do magic like this and build "what if..." guitars.

I should reiterate lest I sound grouchy, the thing is gorgeous and I'm very, very jealous.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

coral pink? more like Aged Fiesta
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

brainfur wrote:
coral pink? more like Aged Fiesta



Although that was the conventional wisdom for many years that all the "Salmon Pink or "Coral Pink" vintage strats were actually "Fiesta Red" that had aged, It now has been confirmed that Fender DID actually make a real Coral Pink Strat. The guitar below was verified by Daves Guitars and featured in an article published in a 2009 issue of "Premier Guitar Magazine"




Here is an excerpt from the article:

"This Strat has a penciled neck date of 3-61, and has all the features typical to Strats of that year. These include: a slab Brazilian rosewood fingerboard with clay dots; a small headstock with spaghetti decal, including two patent numbers; and a greenish Nitrate 3-ply pickguard with a metal shielding plate underneath. The neck profile is very flat and comfortable, like most of the early slab board necks.

Besides having all the classic characteristics that make early 60s Strats appealing to players and collectors, this one has an ultra-rare color. According to an old piece of masking tape attached under the pickguard, the color is Tahitian Coral (a color of the same name was used by Chrysler in the late 50s). This non-standard color was not mentioned in any Fender catalogs (the closest official Fender color at the time was Shell Pink, listed from 19601963). An undercoat of Desert Sand can be seen where the top color has worn off. Proof that this color is factory original can be seen after unscrewing the neck. An area of paint from the body has stuck to the neck leaving a bare spot in the neck pocket that is an exact match to the glob stuck to the neck."

I'm pretty sure that it is not the only guitar Fender made in Coral Pink. I posted these pictures on The RickResource Forum back in 2009 when the article was published and Paul Wilczynski, the Luthier who builds all the acoustic model guitars for Rickenbacker, said this:

"I owned an early Jazzmaster in exactly this shade, painted over a sunburst. At the time I owned the guitar, I matched the color to a DuPont chip. It was a '55 Chevrolet color called, simply, "Coral". When I put it up for sale in '97, I got lots of interest. The three guys who came to the house wanted me to pull the neck, but I resisted. It eventually went, sight unseen, to a buyer in Switzerland in 2001. I knew it was original, but did not know how rare this color is."
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

westtexasred wrote:
brainfur wrote:
coral pink? more like Aged Fiesta



Although that was the conventional wisdom for many years that all the "Salmon Pink or "Coral Pink" vintage strats were actually "Fiesta Red" that had aged, It now has been confirmed that Fender DID actually make a real Coral Pink Strat. The guitar below was verified by Daves Guitars and featured in an article published in a 2009 issue of "Premier Guitar Magazine"




Here is an excerpt from the article:

"This Strat has a penciled neck date of 3-61, and has all the features typical to Strats of that year. These include: a slab Brazilian rosewood fingerboard with clay dots; a small headstock with spaghetti decal, including two patent numbers; and a greenish Nitrate 3-ply pickguard with a metal shielding plate underneath. The neck profile is very flat and comfortable, like most of the early slab board necks.

Besides having all the classic characteristics that make early 60s Strats appealing to players and collectors, this one has an ultra-rare color. According to an old piece of masking tape attached under the pickguard, the color is Tahitian Coral (a color of the same name was used by Chrysler in the late 50s). This non-standard color was not mentioned in any Fender catalogs (the closest official Fender color at the time was Shell Pink, listed from 19601963). An undercoat of Desert Sand can be seen where the top color has worn off. Proof that this color is factory original can be seen after unscrewing the neck. An area of paint from the body has stuck to the neck leaving a bare spot in the neck pocket that is an exact match to the glob stuck to the neck."

I'm pretty sure that it is not the only guitar Fender made in Coral Pink. I posted these pictures on The RickResource Forum back in 2009 when the article was published and Paul Wilczynski, the Luthier who builds all the acoustic model guitars for Rickenbacker, said this:

"I owned an early Jazzmaster in exactly this shade, painted over a sunburst. At the time I owned the guitar, I matched the color to a DuPont chip. It was a '55 Chevrolet color called, simply, "Coral". When I put it up for sale in '97, I got lots of interest. The three guys who came to the house wanted me to pull the neck, but I resisted. It eventually went, sight unseen, to a buyer in Switzerland in 2001. I knew it was original, but did not know how rare this color is."



Hmmmm, looks liek aged fiesta red to me... Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

brainfur wrote:


Hmmmm, looks liek aged fiesta red to me... Laughing


Yes,they do look similar.That'a the 1961 Tahitian Coral on the left and a 1961 Fiesta Red on the right.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

welp. both are beautiful old colours!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a photo of an unrestored 1955 Chevy Bel Air with original Coral and Gray factory paint job (link)



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