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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:28 am    Post subject: Original Color? Reply with quote

Does anyone know if this is an original Fender color? The seller doesn't seem to know much about it... but I didn't think Fender did Mustangs in orange sparkles.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1966-Fender-Mustang-Sparkle-Orange-Original-/131401943027?pt=Guitar&hash=item1e982a87f3
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah that's not original paint. Real sloppy job too, you can see obvious drip on the upper horn.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gonna go with refin, neck pocket has some daphne or sonic lookin blue.

I don't see the drip, but I see a lot of cracks in the finish.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love that type of metallic orange because it reminds me of the orange metal flake on my first motorcycle, a 1972 Yamaha TX750. I wouldn't spend that much for that guitar, even if I loved it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty sure original sparkle finishes from the 60s usually have a standard finish, or evidence of other paint, underneath. That's just how Fender did custom sparkle jobs.

Also that looks like two indents, not a drip, and cracking like that is fairly expected on a well used 60s fender.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

George wrote:
Pretty sure original sparkle finishes from the 60s usually have a standard finish, or evidence of other paint, underneath. That's just how Fender did custom sparkle jobs.

Also that looks like two indents, not a drip, and cracking like that is fairly expected on a well used 60s fender.


So there's no real way of knowing because even if it were original, it'd be a custom job.

And yeah, I can't tell if those are drips or weather checking
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

someone else like James may be better able to explain this, and how to accurately determine if it is real, but yeah, all sparkles and rare colours from that era were custom jobs by request, but are fender finishes nonetheless.

to me it is very clearly cracking and not drips, and the depth, evenness and quality of the sparkle looks legit. the guy even say it's checking. and also, this is pure conjecture on my part, but i don't think a craftsman who can get as good a sparkle as that is going to fuck it all up at the last minute and leave drips all over the top coat.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



The ones behind the bridge are checking sure, but that top horn still looks drip to me. I'd have to see it in person to be sure.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks like 2 big dents to me. hang on, im gonna ms paint this up
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in my humble opinion, dent 1 and the the small piece of checking, mixed with the reflection of the strip light above it is causing an optical illusion of a big fat drip. dent 2 is just fucking crazy, not much else to be said about that.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also assumed that it was the light causing photo distortion because on other images it looked relatively smooth. That being said, I can't really tell without seeing it in person.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that is some bass boat shit
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

George wrote:
in my humble opinion, dent 1 and the the small piece of checking, mixed with the reflection of the strip light above it is causing an optical illusion of a big fat drip. dent 2 is just fucking crazy, not much else to be said about that.


Thread just went internet awesome. Isn't their some paid geek at Fender that you can email and ask?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DENT 2 FUCKING CRAZY
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dents like that would show at least a little of the paint underneath. As it is you can't see any daphne blue outside of the neck pocket.

I'm going with 'dent 2' is a real dent that wasn't filled before a refinish. 'Dent 1' over to the bit marked checking is actually a paint drip from too heavy of a coat being sprayed from an aerosol.

Still a cool looking guitar but almost certainly a refin.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good point about dent 2. Having said the a high res photo of the area may show some cracking and stuff

Would be good to see a better hi res photo of the area now I think. I'm really curious whether it's a drip or not. I'm still banking on my assumption that it isn't.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

new angle

all accountable as being a dent and checking imo; the illusion is no longer visible now the strip light is in a different place, and dent 1 looks like a dent. you are still possibly right about the issue of no paint showing through the dents, but we'd need better photos to say for sure. Dent 1 looks like it has cracking around it at least

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I called Fender but they directed me to Gruhn Guitars.... saying they're more knowledgeable in vintage. Yes, you read that right. A guitar shop in Nashville knows more about Fender than Fender.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't doubt it, George knows a lot about various types of fretted instruments.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The shape of the upper horn doesn't look right to me.
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