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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:01 pm    Post subject: Please help me find a guitar... Reply with quote

I'm looking for a 24-inch scale, set-neck, angled headstock, solid-body electric. Anybody know of one?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like you want a Gibson, I doubt you'd feel the 1/2" difference.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I doubt you'd feel the 1/2" difference.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gibsons are .75" longer. Personally I definitely notice the difference between 24" and 24.75", but you're going to struggle finding something with the specs you're after anyway.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

24" scale is a pretty tall order, luckily...










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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

timhulio wrote:
24" scale is a pretty tall order, luckily...


I can't believe the neck width is 47mm on the Brian Mays while most guitars are 42-43mm!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Special
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harley Benton do a Red Special copy for cheaps.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've secretly wanted a red special for years
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

George wrote:
Gibsons are .75" longer. Personally I definitely notice the difference between 24" and 24.75", but you're going to struggle finding something with the specs you're after anyway.


From what I've read on the internet (Gibson forums) vintage-spec Gibsons were advertised as 24.75" but measure up as 24.5" and modern Epiphones measure up at 24.75". I haven't measured any Gibsons or Epiphones myself, so I might be regurgitating bullshit.

Either way, 24" vs 24.75", the difference in distance between from nut to 1st fret would be 0.042" or a gnats knacker over 1mm.
Are you going to notice that difference while playing? I don't.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noirie. wrote:
Harley Benton do a Red Special copy for cheaps.


Found that on thormann.de
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Either way, 24" vs 24.75", the difference in distance between from nut to 1st fret would be 0.042" or a gnats knacker over 1mm.
Are you going to notice that difference while playing? I don't.

Yes, absolutely. When you play hours a day, small differences like that are huge. It's like having a piece of a popcorn kernel stuck in your teeth. It's a small piece of popcorn, but in the universe of your mouth it feels pretty damn big.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So there you are. There is one guitar which matches your specs.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mountain2012 wrote:
George wrote:
Either way, 24" vs 24.75", the difference in distance between from nut to 1st fret would be 0.042" or a gnats knacker over 1mm.
Are you going to notice that difference while playing? I don't.

Yes, absolutely. When you play hours a day, small differences like that are huge. It's like having a piece of a popcorn kernel stuck in your teeth. It's a small piece of popcorn, but in the universe of your mouth it feels pretty damn big.

Nah. A 10" difference barely registers for me anymore, switching between my Jaguar, Strat, Tele, VI and Jazz Bass all the time. You notice it at first, but your brain and fingers adapt.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ankhanu wrote:
Nah. A 10" difference barely registers for me anymore, switching between my Jaguar, Strat, Tele, VI and Jazz Bass all the time. You notice it at first, but your brain and fingers adapt.

You guys must be blessed with big phalanges. A 24-inch scale guitar is the difference between me using my ring finger and pinky to fret the distance of two frets compared to a 24.75" scale guitar. That's how short my fingers are.

And before anyone says, "look at those kids on youtube, they are playing a full-size guitar with tiny hands!", I'm not a kid and don't have the coordination and dexterity they do.

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So there you are. There is one guitar which matches your specs.

Thank you. Think I'm going to save money to commission a luthier for a custom guitar. That 47mm neck width on the red special is a little too formidable
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Disappointed:


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You just made Brian so mad that he went and kicked a badger in the face, then stamped on a fox, right on his spine.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mountain2012 wrote:
Ankhanu wrote:
Nah. A 10" difference barely registers for me anymore, switching between my Jaguar, Strat, Tele, VI and Jazz Bass all the time. You notice it at first, but your brain and fingers adapt.

You guys must be blessed with big phalanges. A 24-inch scale guitar is the difference between me using my ring finger and pinky to fret the distance of two frets compared to a 24.75" scale guitar. That's how short my fingers are.


I'm with Ankhanu on this, I can do chords on a 34" bass but it's a bit of a stretch for me (though chords on bass sound wrong to me).
I don't really notice scale length that much, I feel differences is string tension though.
My hands aren't particularly large; thumb tip to pinky tip is a hair over 9". My Dad does have big hands; his pinky finger is as thick as my thumb!

mountain2012 wrote:
That 47mm neck width on the red special is a little too formidable


The Harley Benton version had a 42mm nut. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll bet the Harley Benton version is 24 3/4" scale though. There's no way they'd retool for a single model.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

timhulio wrote:
I'll bet the Harley Benton version is 24 3/4" scale though. There's no way they'd retool for a single model.


635mm scale, or 25" Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a little ass silvertone 1448. I can fret up like 5 notes with that thing. I use it in my 2 piece band so I can do big note changes easy. The neck is fucking tiny.
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