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What's up with Gibson Firebird prices?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

plopswagon wrote:
seems like the mini-humbucker has individual pole pieces over the magnet and a Firebird has bar magnets inside the wire coils.



There are also modified pickups that Gibson used in 70's tribute series, they combined non magnetic steel bars that are used instead of pole pieces and Alnico magnet at the bottom
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sunshiner wrote:
There are also modified pickups that Gibson used in 70's tribute series, they combined non magnetic steel bars that are used instead of pole pieces and Alnico magnet at the bottom

Please don't interrupt the discussion about the use of the term "mini humbucker", I'm keen to find out who's right.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MatthewK wrote:
sunshiner wrote:
There are also modified pickups that Gibson used in 70's tribute series, they combined non magnetic steel bars that are used instead of pole pieces and Alnico magnet at the bottom

Please don't interrupt the discussion about the use of the term "mini humbucker", I'm keen to find out who's right.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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MatthewK wrote:
sunshiner wrote:
There are also modified pickups that Gibson used in 70's tribute series, they combined non magnetic steel bars that are used instead of pole pieces and Alnico magnet at the bottom

Please don't interrupt the discussion about the use of the term "mini humbucker", I'm keen to find out who's right.

Dammit
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was checking out the old catalogues from here:
http://www.vintageguitarandbass.com/gibson/catalogues/
I looked at the ones from the Firebird, Les Paul Deluxe, even the ES-325 (which looked like the Firebird, but are single-coil sounding with one magnet/polepiece thing in the middle, I think they used them on some non-reverse FBs too).

Gibson calls them all "humbucking" and never seemed to use the term "mini-humbucker" back in the day.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fakir Mustache wrote:
I was checking out the old catalogues from here:
http://www.vintageguitarandbass.com/gibson/catalogues/
I looked at the ones from the Firebird, Les Paul Deluxe, even the ES-325 (which looked like the Firebird, but are single-coil sounding with one magnet/polepiece thing in the middle, I think they used them on some non-reverse FBs too).

Gibson calls them all "humbucking" and never seemed to use the term "mini-humbucker" back in the day.

i'm pretty sure the one in the deluxe is the one simply referred to as "mini-humbucker".. and that's the one tim is calling a mini humbucker and he's absolutely right.. however, they were all narrower than full size and can all be called mini. Most call the firebird pickup "firebird mini-humbucker" because it's smaller in size than a full size paf and comes in the firebird. We are simply arguing the language. We are both 100 percent right IMO.

I played a telecaster many years ago in a guitar center and fell in love with it., I can't remember the model name but the neck had a mini. I asked the guy that worked there about the pickup and he told me it was a mini humbucker like in a firebird that seymour duncan made for this tele and is used as a replacement in firebirds. I wish i had bought it but i couldn't afford it at the time. It sounded awesome. Played perfect. It was natural finish. I think that's when my obsession for that pickup began. It wasn't until later i realized they had different forms of minis. I thought about getting a firebird pickup and putting it in my tele but i don't know which mini the tele pickup was built after.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i just want a firebird. thx.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dots wrote:
i just want a firebird. thx.


aren't you also quite short like me? don't go anywhere near them if you're under 6 foot

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brian Jones (5'6") says you're wrong.



(awaits brandon telling me that's not Brian Jones, that's "a rolling stone").
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

benecol wrote:
(awaits brandon telling me that's not Brian Jones, that's "a rolling stone").

IRL LOL
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Gibson Firebird and the Gibson non-reverse Firebird don't have body shapes that are exact reflections of each other. Does that mean we shouldn't refer to the non-reverse Firebird as so (because it isn't) or should we refer to it how Gibson named it?

Does a 'firebird pickup' remove (or buck) hum? If so, surely that makes it a humbucker, mini or otherwise?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the sound of one hand clapping?

How do you solve a problem like Maria?

Why is my reserve Bigsby B6 now installed to flush our toilet?* Will Bigsby (Once acquired by Fred Gretsch Enterprises, presently owned by FMIC) still call it a B6?








*Actually, it isn't.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

benecol wrote:
...except that Firebird pickups aren't mini-humbuckers. Link.


benecol wrote:


(awaits brandon telling me that's not Brian Jones, that's "a rolling stone").

no tim.. you told me i was wrong when i said i like minihumbucker's
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

brandonwinmill wrote:
no tim.. you told me i was wrong when i said i like minihumbucker's

Surely his name is "benecol" rather than "tim".
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MatthewK wrote:
brandonwinmill wrote:
no tim.. you told me i was wrong when i said i like minihumbucker's

Surely his name is "benecol" rather than "tim".

in that case surely mine is "brandonwinmill" rather than brandon
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ultratwin wrote:
Why is my reserve Bigsby B6 now installed to flush our toilet?

Reverb handle connected to a reverb tank, what's so strange? Get over it.
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