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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:47 am    Post subject: New Fender American Pro Jaguars / Jazzmasters Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty fucking cool.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love this. My favorite thing about Fenders are the maple fretboard guitars. This is a cool option to have.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kind of wish I could swap my curent jag for a maple neck version.
Good colors too. It's like 2010 Aen got to design a jag/jm series. (except the lack of tele bridge/pickup)
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can't say fender isn't listening to what folks want. those are some great features. really dig the toggly on the jag.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spec sheet for the Jaguar:



Looks like the top switch is a phase switch.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like them. They're not traditional, but that's cool. There's a shitload of other options if you want to go the traditional route. Little whiny bitches are complain though. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not big on overwound pickups, tall/narrow frets (just gimme narrow!), or screw in trem arms, but these do look otherwise pretty neat. Definitely into the phase switch.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah but I'll take narrow/tall over medium/jumbo!!

Also into that redesigned bridge...

Wait and there's no rhythm circuit?


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that top plate with one switch on it looks fucking stupid. I don't like 9.5" necks at all.

everything else looks sweet though.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the bridge a Staytrem then?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dig the colors and the witch hat knobs on the JM, kinda don't like the switch placement for the jazzmaster. The jaguar looks nice though, with the four way toggle but got damn if I don't love and miss the bass cut switch on there Sad phase switch is cool though, plus the phase switch could amount to some cool tones but overall

NAH

I think I'll stick with the Squier VM series bc these changes aren't for me
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

robroe wrote:
that top plate with one switch on it looks fucking stupid. I don't like 9.5" necks at all.

everything else looks sweet though.


I kinda feel you but could prolly deal with the single switch.

Putting on a glossy Japanese neck is always an option. I can live with 9.5 but not my fave.

For me the deal breaker will prolly be cost. Are these gonna be like $1700?

EDIT: $1499 MSRP. Wonder what the street price will be. Used prices at or under $1000 in a few years?


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Johno wrote:
Is the bridge a Staytrem then?


Staytrem-esque.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice that they've designed them with a neck profile that's "perfect for chord and single-note playing alike". Too often I have to switch between guitars because they're only really suitable for rhythm rather than lead.

Who is that sort of sales copy aimed at?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dolts?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Jaguar's switching is perfect. Edit: near-perfect including a strangle on the upper plate (next to the phase switch) would have made it look less sparse.

They should have left the Jazzmaster's toggle in the usual place and put a series or phase switch in place of the rhythm circuit.

Not keen on the maple fretboards but the small print says there will also be rosewood options.

The bridge is just a Mustang bridge with brass saddles the problems of too-wide string spacing and difficult intonation adjustment are still not solved. Would still replace with Staytrem.

Rather dull body colours IMO.

Would be interested to try the neck shape and 'tall narrow' frets.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen it mentioned elsewhere that the bridge is apparently the same as the one on the TVL Jazzmaster. No idea if that's actually true.

I think they look pretty good tbh. I really like the 4 way Tele switch on my JM Jaguar so it's good to see they've adopted it here. I'm one of the, probably few, people who is a fan of the rhythm circuit on Jaguars so it's a bit of a shame (IMHO etc) that it's been dropped here. It's understandable though as I get the impression most people never use it and the phase switch does add some extra options.

Overall, pretty decent looking.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

benecol wrote:
Nice that they've designed them with a neck profile that's "perfect for chord and single-note playing alike". Too often I have to switch between guitars because they're only really suitable for rhythm rather than lead.

The worst is when you have to play a riff during the verses and then chords during the chorus, you've got to be really on your game to keep up with the changes. Forget playing a solo - can't be done.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, that's why I had to buy one of these



It's the only way I can play half my songs.
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