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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:32 am    Post subject: Reasonably priced pitch shift - with harmony? Reply with quote

I'm thinking Zoom G3X multi-effect at 124 is a reasonable way of getting a pitch shifter for playing those songs the singer insists on doing in E flat but you know are E down a half step. It's cheaper than the Digitech Drop and gets me a bunch of other options, too. However... is there a harmoniser that will do that shift? I've looked at one (Digitech?) and it seems to want to go up or down a minor second minimum which won't do it. I don't think the Pitch Fork does, either.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have a pitch fork and i don't think it detunes a half step? will check when i'm home but it definitely doesn't harmonise intelligently. tracking is excellent though, as is the case with all ehx pedals.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The pitch shifting on the Zoom units is awful, super glitchy and really out of tune. A morpheus drop tune or a Digitech drop are the best options for what you want.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gabriel wrote:
The pitch shifting on the Zoom units is awful, super glitchy and really out of tune. A morpheus drop tune or a Digitech drop are the best options for what you want.
Interesting, my colleague swears by his G5 for pitch shifting. The Morpheus pedal is discontinued. Digitech drop is affordable.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the behringer pitch shifter and it does half step below and doesn't sound too bad for $50
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to revive this thread to point out that the Digitech Ricochet expression-pedal-less whammy is currently 111 on Amazon, gives you pitch shift AND whammy - but the shift is fixed intervals up or down; 2nd, 4th, 5th, 7th, 8ve, 2x8ve, 8ve+dry.

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The Digitech Drop is down to 95
The Behringer US600 isn't in stock anywhere I can find.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Reasonably priced pitch shift - with harmony? Reply with quote

NickS wrote:
I'm thinking Zoom G3X multi-effect at 124 is a reasonable way of getting a pitch shifter for playing those songs the singer insists on doing in E flat but you know are E down a half step. It's cheaper than the Digitech Drop and gets me a bunch of other options, too. However... is there a harmoniser that will do that shift? I've looked at one (Digitech?) and it seems to want to go up or down a minor second minimum which won't do it. I don't think the Pitch Fork does, either.


Minor second is one fret.

The full Digitech Whammy does this well, but isn't the cheapest pedal around. Useful though, for morellols.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Drop does 1-7 semitones and octave down, so it's good for that semitone detune. I don't know whether that is what I was talking about.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just tell your singer to sing better.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More a case of "tell the keyboard player to use the transpose button", tbh, if he has one on his Hammond.

I have a minor issue with one of the local guitarists when we do a Steve Miller Band song who insists "that's played in F" when you can tell from the open string sounds it's played as a G shape.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NickS wrote:
The Drop does 1-7 semitones an octave down, so it's good for that semitone detune. I don't know whether that is what I was talking about.


One to seven semitones the suddenly jumping to an octave is a weird set of options, but it would do what you're asking for.

Ricochet looks rubbish.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bacchus wrote:
One to seven semitones the suddenly jumping to an octave is a weird set of options.


I always thought that. Almost like it was designed by someone who mistakenly thought an octave = 8 semitones.

I put a Drop on my Christmas list but Santa failed to deliver. Made up some bullshit about it being out of stock everywhere.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, that's what I thought when I saw it.
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