Joined: 30 Aug 2011 Posts: 4985 Location: Location: Location
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 8:52 pm Post subject:
Yeah, I think the two Squier options are probably the best bets.
The trem probably isn't a deal breaker. My aesthetic issues with the all black Squier Jazzmaster are more to do with the black hardware than the body, so fixable.
I'm shit at making decisions though so expect me to still be weighing up my options in 2019. _________________
Fran wrote:
I love how this place is basic as fuck.
ekwatts wrote:
I'm just going to smash it in with a hammer and hope it works. Tone is all in the fingers anyway.
Not really what this thread is about, but I had a go on a student's one of these today. Brilliant fun and I think they were a bit surprised that yes, I could djent.
Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 7835 Location: Albany, NY
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:13 pm Post subject:
I just put 13-64 gauge strings (middle 6 from an ernie ball set of 8 strings) on a Starcaster HSS Strat (yardsale find gift from the inlaws last year), tightened up the truss rod and a quick intonation tuned it to B standard.
Have not had this much fun since I started getting good on guitar. So good for a writing tool it's like a reverse capo. Only thing I'd change is to put in weaker pickups at some point, because these heavy strings could use more room to breathe.
Joined: 30 Aug 2011 Posts: 4985 Location: Location: Location
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:20 pm Post subject: Re: Let's talk about baritones
BearBoy wrote:
tuned it down to B-B. Then C-C as the strings were too floppy for my tastes. I eventually ended up at D-D, thereby totally missing the point of the whole enterprise.*
EDIT: * actually, I'm getting confused. I've just checked and it's C-C and the strings are fine. Either way, it's not really deep enough for what I want.
Actually, I think I'm going senile. I've tuned back down to B-B and the strings are absolutely fine from a tension perspective.The only real issue is notes going sharp on the 1st and 2nd frets if I apply more than the most gentle pressure. Think this is a nut issue.
Either way, I'm not sure the tone has the same sonorous mellow yet punchy sound (appreciate this probably makes no sense - I can never describe toanz) that I can get from the Squier VI. Not sure if this is to do with the pickups but I'm guessing it is more to do with the scale length/string gauge. _________________
Fran wrote:
I love how this place is basic as fuck.
ekwatts wrote:
I'm just going to smash it in with a hammer and hope it works. Tone is all in the fingers anyway.
Joined: 22 Apr 2006 Posts: 7533 Location: ELECTRIC WARRIOR
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:45 pm Post subject:
Yep, I've got one.
I've got a custom string set from Stringjoy on mine, I beleive it's 64-12 or something? Not as big as I would usually go, but it's holding up.
I tune it AEAEEB
Joined: 25 Jan 2011 Posts: 6888 Location: Westcountry
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:47 pm Post subject:
Pretty much - scale length can be anywhere between 26.5" (one of the Reverends, I think? - might as well have a regular guitar though) and 30". The only significant difference is that some of the standard E-E ones come with thicker bore tuners (the Gretch, I think, and the Dano VIs) so they can take thicker strings easier, but most E-E string sets have thinner string ends so you can use regular tuners (Bass VI is like this).
Full chords sound shite and jumbled on E-E though - it's why I always ran back to the loving arms of A-A or B-B.
Pretty much - scale length can be anywhere between 26.5" (one of the Reverends, I think? - might as well have a regular guitar though) and 30". The only significant difference is that some of the standard E-E ones come with thicker bore tuners (the Gretch, I think, and the Dano VIs) so they can take thicker strings easier, but most E-E string sets have thinner string ends so you can use regular tuners (Bass VI is like this).
Full chords sound shite and jumbled on E-E though - it's why I always ran back to the loving arms of A-A or B-B.
A-A B-B was this on the bass Vi? Seriously considering the Harley Benton as I love my HB Jazz bass so these are probably pretty good. _________________ Extreme distortion used discreetly...
Joined: 25 Jan 2011 Posts: 6888 Location: Westcountry
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:03 pm Post subject:
Arr, I bought lighter strings. I used to use D'Addario baritone strings, but seem to remember they're not quite long enough for VIs: I bought set of Circle Ks for that.
Think that one from Thomann looks amazing for the price - get one and report back.
Arr, I bought lighter strings. I used to use D'Addario baritone strings, but seem to remember they're not quite long enough for VIs: I bought set of Circle Ks for that.
Think that one from Thomann looks amazing for the price - get one and report back.
Does look good...
Need to sell something first or file for divorce (or have divorce filed against me) _________________ Extreme distortion used discreetly...
Joined: 10 Nov 2009 Posts: 2857 Location: Nova Scotia
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 7:10 pm Post subject:
BearBoy wrote:
Either way, I'm not sure the tone has the same sonorous mellow yet punchy sound (appreciate this probably makes no sense - I can never describe toanz) that I can get from the Squier VI. Not sure if this is to do with the pickups but I'm guessing it is more to do with the scale length/string gauge.
Yeah, I think it's more a scale length/tension thing.
This is a demo that I tossed on Youtube two years ago after restringing my VI to baritone:
Is the difference between a baritone and a bass vi that a baritone is tuned down to B and a bass vi is tuned a whole octave down to E?
Can you play chords on a bass vi or does it sounds shite.
Most baritones are shorter scale than a VI; baritone on a VI is basically a longscale baritone, longer than most baritones by ~2". VI is also bass, not baritone, E-e, about 2.5-3.5 steps lower than baritone.
You can play all kinds of chords on VI, but, full G down to E chords can be muddy. Cutting out a couple notes from the chord will let it ring cleaner. _________________
ekwatts wrote:
That's American cinema, that is. Fucking sparkles.
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