My fave Kurt live and studio sounds were his Jag (1meg pots and Super D) going through a DS-2. I always thought his MIJ Stangs and Sansamp on the In Utero tours sounded like flat-ass dogshit by comparison. The In Utero sessions were great too though as they were the dream team through a Twin Reverb (versus his ridiculous live rig).
That recording sounds more like mode I to me, which is basically a DS-1 circuit, right?
Mode II sounds more vowel-like, almost like a cocked Wah setting.
Neither mode on a DS-2 sounds or behaves anything a DS-1 to me. I’ve heard a lot of people say it over the years but I’m not convinced they even aimed it that way unless the Japanese DS-1 was actually THAT much different than the current one. _________________
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That recording sounds more like mode I to me, which is basically a DS-1 circuit, right?
Mode II sounds more vowel-like, almost like a cocked Wah setting.
Neither mode on a DS-2 sounds or behaves anything a DS-1 to me. I’ve heard a lot of people say it over the years but I’m not convinced they even aimed it that way unless the Japanese DS-1 was actually THAT much different than the current one.
Interesting.
My DS-1 has the Jizzer Mod so can't really compare it to my DS-2.
I seem to remember them being similar but that was a long time ago.
That black label SD-1 sounds different to the current model so who knows...
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:50 pm Post subject:
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DS-2 is all discrete bipolar transistors and FETs, no op-amps
And apart from the long-tailed pair, all the FETs are used as switches. Three pairs of clipping diodes, and the remote Turbo input. Seems a little over-egged to me, but I've got cloth ears.
It's interesting to see the DS-2 is discrete components rather than op-amps...I normally expect newer versions of a circuit to go more towards the op-amp route because I assumed it would be cheaper. One of these days I'm going to buy that book that Boss published where they interview the techs/designers...I doubt it has circuit diagrams or schematics and the listing is probably out of date by now, but there's probably some interesting info on the design process for the old classics.
I wonder what the guts of an OS-2 look like - it would be interesting to see how two separate circuits are squeezed onto one board.
the signal is buffered and then split and goes two ways:
1. to an op-amp based Distortion design (hard clipping to ground - sort of like a DS-1 without the input boost)
2. to an op-amp based Overdrive design (assymetrical soft clipping in feedback loop - more like an SD-1)
the clever part is they SHARE a dual gang Drive pot so when you change the gain they both are moved up and down together
Then a COLOR pot effectively mixes the outputs of these two paths together into one, and then feeds the tone control (new, again not DS-1 or DS-2 like) and level control to create the output
Joined: 02 Nov 2012 Posts: 4847 Location: Around the corner
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:37 am Post subject:
^^^^Mad Professor Sweet Honey is the same circuit as BD-2, costs twice more money. But I'll save your time - Joyo Sweet Baby is a direct copy of Sweet Honey and costs $30 _________________
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