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dezb1
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Bought one of these the other day, never owned a silicon fuzz as they're usually too expensive for an impulse buy. Quite nice stacks well with my SD-1 - sounds good on vocals for a bit of grit.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:59 am Post subject: |
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| TC does have some good prices. Are Dunlop Fuzz Faces really that much more expensive in the UK? |
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dezb1
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| TC does have some good prices. Are Dunlop Fuzz Faces really that much more expensive in the UK? |
Bout £100 last I looked... more than twice the price of this.
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So this is a silicon Fuzz Face clone?
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| Yarp, been eyeballing these for a while now |
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| When I see "silicon Fuzz Face," I immediately think of Gilmour going for it during the "live at Pompeii" version of Echoes. If this can nail that same gnarly old-school sound. I'm sold. |
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Mike
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it's mental any pedals of this type are expensive when:
1) the component count is < 20 including all transistors, resistors, capacitors
2) the silicon versions don't even use specially selected New Old Stock germanium transistors
the fuzz face is a very simple circuit, Jim Dunlop just market it higher because of the case and the Hendrix association I guess?
A DS-1 or Tubescreamer is way more complex for example.
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dezb1
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Not sure about the Echoes tone but it's a great sounding pedal... and it probably will get you that tone as I've discovered over the years me n Dave share a liking for the same dirt pedals black sovtek muff, HM-2 and I like this - does he use a SD-1? As it would seem we share more than a birthday.
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| Mike wrote: |
it's mental any pedals of this type are expensive when:
1) the component count is < 20 including all transistors, resistors, capacitors
2) the silicon versions don't even use specially selected New Old Stock germanium transistors
the fuzz face is a very simple circuit, Jim Dunlop just market it higher because of the case and the Hendrix association I guess?
A DS-1 or Tubescreamer is way more complex for example. |
I expect that in coming years Chinese companies will drop all pedal prices down significantly, add to this the fact that many boutique pedals are just modified circuits of non-boutique pedals (that using all the same components cost sometimes 3 times less and bring profit to the manufacturer at this price) - they may kill off the boutique market promptly copying all newly introduced designs. Which is good and bad at the same time. Pedals will become cheaper, but mass production that could replace all the small companies may have hard times afterwards creating something original and new
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Mike
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:08 am Post subject: |
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| dezb1 wrote: |
| Not sure about the Echoes tone but it's a great sounding pedal... and it probably will get you that tone as I've discovered over the years me n Dave share a liking for the same dirt pedals black sovtek muff, HM-2 and I like this - does he use a SD-1? As it would seem we share more than a birthday. |
the HM-2 thing I was reading about the other day, it looks like he did a lot of stuff after the HM-2 to tame it's inherent mentalness
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| Mike wrote: |
it's mental any pedals of this type are expensive when:
1) the component count is < 20 including all transistors, resistors, capacitors
2) the silicon versions don't even use specially selected New Old Stock germanium transistors
the fuzz face is a very simple circuit, Jim Dunlop just market it higher because of the case and the Hendrix association I guess?
A DS-1 or Tubescreamer is way more complex for example. |
I expect that in coming years Chinese companies will drop all pedal prices down significantly, add to this the fact that many boutique pedals are just modified circuits of non-boutique pedals (that using all the same components cost sometimes 3 times less and bring profit to the manufacturer at this price) - they may kill off the boutique market promptly copying all newly introduced designs. Which is good and bad at the same time. Pedals will become cheaper, but mass production that could replace all the small companies may have hard times afterwards creating something original and new |
That has already happened. Chinese clones of all pedals (mainstream, top-end and boutique) are all over the market.
It's never been cheaper to get hold of a pedal. The only choice people are making these days is based on reliability concerns, brand loyalty, ethics and snake oil/lies.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:42 am Post subject: Re: T C rusty fuzz |
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| dezb1 wrote: |
| Bought one of these the other day, never owned a silicon fuzz as they're usually too expensive for an impulse buy. |
Most fuzzes are silicon, especially the cheaper ones.
I would imagine yours is like a Fuzz Face, the Honey Pot seems to be the Muff style fuzz. |
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^ i was about to say exactly that. germanium fuzzes tend to be the more expensive ones, silicon is nearly every dirt pedal out there.
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dezb1
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:50 am Post subject: |
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You just have to write fuzz on a pedal over here and you double the price.
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| Mike wrote: |
| dezb1 wrote: |
| Not sure about the Echoes tone but it's a great sounding pedal... and it probably will get you that tone as I've discovered over the years me n Dave share a liking for the same dirt pedals black sovtek muff, HM-2 and I like this - does he use a SD-1? As it would seem we share more than a birthday. |
the HM-2 thing I was reading about the other day, it looks like he did a lot of stuff after the HM-2 to tame it's inherent mentalness |
The secret is running it at 9 volts rather than 12 - just sounds better. Only gets the shit metal tone if you turn the highs up.
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dezb1
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Well after my initial new pedal fun feeling was over I've decided this sounds way too thin and it's going back.
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| Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Even with the tone control pulled back? |
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dezb1
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| Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Even with the tone control pulled back? |
I'm used to the excessive bass of the black sovtek big muff... was a decent pedal just not the sound for me.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:41 am Post subject: |
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| I'm thinking the Honey Pot is some kind of Sovtek copy from what I hear in the demos. |
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