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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:24 am    Post subject: T C rusty fuzz Reply with quote

Bought one of these the other day, never owned a silicon fuzz as they're usually too expensive for an impulse buy. Quite nice stacks well with my SD-1 - sounds good on vocals for a bit of grit.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TC does have some good prices. Are Dunlop Fuzz Faces really that much more expensive in the UK?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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TC does have some good prices. Are Dunlop Fuzz Faces really that much more expensive in the UK?


Bout £100 last I looked... more than twice the price of this.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So this is a silicon Fuzz Face clone?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yarp, been eyeballing these for a while now
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I see "silicon Fuzz Face," I immediately think of Gilmour going for it during the "live at Pompeii" version of Echoes. If this can nail that same gnarly old-school sound. I'm sold.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's mental any pedals of this type are expensive when:

1) the component count is < 20 including all transistors, resistors, capacitors
2) the silicon versions don't even use specially selected New Old Stock germanium transistors

the fuzz face is a very simple circuit, Jim Dunlop just market it higher because of the case and the Hendrix association I guess?

A DS-1 or Tubescreamer is way more complex for example.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure about the Echoes tone but it's a great sounding pedal... and it probably will get you that tone as I've discovered over the years me n Dave share a liking for the same dirt pedals black sovtek muff, HM-2 and I like this - does he use a SD-1? As it would seem we share more than a birthday.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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it's mental any pedals of this type are expensive when:

1) the component count is < 20 including all transistors, resistors, capacitors
2) the silicon versions don't even use specially selected New Old Stock germanium transistors

the fuzz face is a very simple circuit, Jim Dunlop just market it higher because of the case and the Hendrix association I guess?

A DS-1 or Tubescreamer is way more complex for example.

I expect that in coming years Chinese companies will drop all pedal prices down significantly, add to this the fact that many boutique pedals are just modified circuits of non-boutique pedals (that using all the same components cost sometimes 3 times less and bring profit to the manufacturer at this price) - they may kill off the boutique market promptly copying all newly introduced designs. Which is good and bad at the same time. Pedals will become cheaper, but mass production that could replace all the small companies may have hard times afterwards creating something original and new
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dezb1 wrote:
Not sure about the Echoes tone but it's a great sounding pedal... and it probably will get you that tone as I've discovered over the years me n Dave share a liking for the same dirt pedals black sovtek muff, HM-2 and I like this - does he use a SD-1? As it would seem we share more than a birthday.


the HM-2 thing I was reading about the other day, it looks like he did a lot of stuff after the HM-2 to tame it's inherent mentalness
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sunshiner wrote:
Mike wrote:
it's mental any pedals of this type are expensive when:

1) the component count is < 20 including all transistors, resistors, capacitors
2) the silicon versions don't even use specially selected New Old Stock germanium transistors

the fuzz face is a very simple circuit, Jim Dunlop just market it higher because of the case and the Hendrix association I guess?

A DS-1 or Tubescreamer is way more complex for example.

I expect that in coming years Chinese companies will drop all pedal prices down significantly, add to this the fact that many boutique pedals are just modified circuits of non-boutique pedals (that using all the same components cost sometimes 3 times less and bring profit to the manufacturer at this price) - they may kill off the boutique market promptly copying all newly introduced designs. Which is good and bad at the same time. Pedals will become cheaper, but mass production that could replace all the small companies may have hard times afterwards creating something original and new


That has already happened. Chinese clones of all pedals (mainstream, top-end and boutique) are all over the market.

It's never been cheaper to get hold of a pedal. The only choice people are making these days is based on reliability concerns, brand loyalty, ethics and snake oil/lies.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:42 am    Post subject: Re: T C rusty fuzz Reply with quote

dezb1 wrote:
Bought one of these the other day, never owned a silicon fuzz as they're usually too expensive for an impulse buy.

Most fuzzes are silicon, especially the cheaper ones.

I would imagine yours is like a Fuzz Face, the Honey Pot seems to be the Muff style fuzz.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ i was about to say exactly that. germanium fuzzes tend to be the more expensive ones, silicon is nearly every dirt pedal out there.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You just have to write fuzz on a pedal over here and you double the price.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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dezb1 wrote:
Not sure about the Echoes tone but it's a great sounding pedal... and it probably will get you that tone as I've discovered over the years me n Dave share a liking for the same dirt pedals black sovtek muff, HM-2 and I like this - does he use a SD-1? As it would seem we share more than a birthday.


the HM-2 thing I was reading about the other day, it looks like he did a lot of stuff after the HM-2 to tame it's inherent mentalness


The secret is running it at 9 volts rather than 12 - just sounds better. Only gets the shit metal tone if you turn the highs up.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well after my initial new pedal fun feeling was over I've decided this sounds way too thin and it's going back.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even with the tone control pulled back?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Even with the tone control pulled back?


I'm used to the excessive bass of the black sovtek big muff... was a decent pedal just not the sound for me.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm thinking the Honey Pot is some kind of Sovtek copy from what I hear in the demos.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm thinking the Honey Pot is some kind of Sovtek copy from what I hear in the demos.


http://theuglyguitartruth.blogspot.co.uk/2017/11/ugly-guitar-truth-tc-electron-honey-pot.html

Listening to some demos, it definitely sounds more like a Green Sovtek than the Muff Pi, not bad at all
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