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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:30 pm    Post subject: <-------VOL KNOB-------> Reply with quote

is there such a thing....how do i explain this


say you got two pickups. no tone knob fuck an tone knob.


does anyone make a volume knob where if you turn it all the way to the left it turns one pickup up all the way, middle is both on all the way, and all the way to the right is the other pickup on all the way.




so like on(off)- ONON- (off)on




is this a thing?



or it could be like on(off) - OFF OFF - (off)on if you wanted only one pickup at a time instead of blending both you would be bleeding each out as you approach centre
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

looking to AEN or MIEK or TOM or who ever else who tinkers with this buuuulllllshit
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds like you want a blend pot.


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https://www.fralinpickups.com/product/blender-pot/
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just watched video and it all sounds exactly the same
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

im thinking of how like a PAN knob works on a recorder. give the knob no hard stop point, just infinite spinny knob


9oclock bridge is full volume alone
12oclock both are full volume alone
3oclock neck is full volume alone
6oclock is both off


all times between 9,12 and 3 are increasing volumes to max 12
all times between 3,6, and 9 are decreasing volumes to minimum at 6

one knob for the whole guitar like this.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would be 4-way rotary switch, not a knob, if you just want on/off settings. I thought you basically wanted a fader like on a mixer where you have A--AB--B. I don't know that there is a four position switch/knob that does what you want with the concentric volume control.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a blend pot on my Yamaha SA30T....I can do a video on it later. It's a feature I love on that guitar.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont want to switch. Want to pan
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By "pan knob on a recorder" I'm going to assume you're talking about an assignable or multi-function encoder on a digital mixer/portastudio/usb-midi controller type unit. I don't know if this is really doable in an analog potentiometer (maybe it is? I don't even know but have never seen that).

Broadcaster/Tele Bridge Blend Pot wiring is closest to what you're saying. It would be a pot with a beginning and an end stopping point, and a center detent (notch in middle to "feel" the halfway point, like an actual hardware pan pot) which would blend the neck pickup into the bridge pickup setting. You would still have a switch and a volume knob. That whole idea of blending in "pickup off" settings on a variable-signal knob is really weird and I'm not sure that'd be doable with standard components.

The blend pot wiring for a Broadcaster would work best for you, you could even do it on your Duo-Strat. It does indeed entail "fuck an tone knob" as well.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I owned a Hofner that did this year's ago.

It was in steps though, not a gradual blend.

Anyway, why do you want this Rob? It all sounds the same through a DS-1 yeah!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

don't they have pan knobs on old fucking 70's boards that were analog though?

like all the Queen shit is panned all over the place


on Appetite for Destruction Izzy came out the left speaker and Slash came out the right speaker, if you can put a whole human being L or R surely you can put 2 pickups B and N 40 years later right ?




nick awesome video. (the blend knob never made it on screen lol, but we all got the idea) thank you
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

im not trying to pan out of stereo speakers though. backwards of that. treat the two pickups as separate inputs, and be able to mix them into one MONO output with one knob



something else i was thinking....people have made Leslie Speaker pedals which mimics a sound panning around in a big fucking drum inside a organ going L R L R L R L R L R and they made that thing 20 years ago. surely what im talking about cant be so fucking XFILES ALIEN TECHNOLOGY in 2018 right ?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can definitely get a "pan" between neck and bridge pickups into one mono output, that's exactly what the blend knob on my guitar does.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

YEAH BUT THAT 3 WAY THO

DO NOT WANT
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could scrap the three way and it would still be a neck <---> bridge blend, there'd just no way to control volume so it'd be CAPSLOCK all the time.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

YES?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

robroe wrote:
don't they have pan knobs on old fucking 70's boards that were analog though?

like all the Queen shit is panned all over the place


Yeah but those aren’t endless spinny knobs unless they’re broken, or are on a digital console where they can also be FX or EQ controls so the thing doesn’t have to be the size of a dining table or amp stack... in which case they’re basically jog wheels cycling through a computer menu. Pan pots dead-end at hard left and hard right.

My point is you can’t just have a passive guitar with Hazerai or Variax knobs or whatever, you’ll have to use a blend pot which won’t have most of those “3 o’clock kills everything, 6 o’clock full neck pickup, 9 o’clock zaps me a Hot Pocket, 12 o’clock sucks my dick” functions you mapped out to pan positions earlier. Also you likely wouldn’t want to blend those last two anyway.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What Paul mentioned (and everyone else, blend knobs are a fairly common thing) is what you want. If you need a "both pickups off" option either add a kill switch to it, or, even more usefully, a volume knob. So you'll have volume knob and a blend (pickup selector) knob.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nick wrote:
You could scrap the three way and it would still be a neck <---> bridge blend, there'd just no way to control volume so it'd be CAPSLOCK all the time.

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