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Doog
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nick wrote:
I think I'm going to stick to <8lb guitars


Absolutely, the "weight = sustain, = GREAT TONE" thing is such utter horseshit. Give me something that feels like an extension of me (fnarrr) as the player, not a wooden prosthetic 3rd leg. That VM Mustang w/CIJ Jag neck I have is is 7.5lbs, and feels like a phantom limb, effortless.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds to me like your CV jag is for the chop doog.

I have a couple of boat anchors. My EGC is probably around the 10lb mark, but I’m ok with that as I love it. I have a 78 Tele that I inherited though that’s like 11.5lb. That’s fucking bullshit.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doog wrote:
My Squier CV Jag is like 9.5lbs, and is definitely on the "only just manageable" side for me, in terms of how much it hurts my bony shoulders and hip bone that it loves banging into


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Doog
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

totally gonna modd your teeth into your fucking larynx
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Doog
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gusman2x wrote:
Sounds to me like your CV jag is for the chop doog


Nah mate. It's by no means a perfect guitar for me - the weight and tall frets are a slight bugbear - but it does sound great and I just love me all dem switches.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What’s your beef with the tall frets?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Doog
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess after playing vintage-style frets for 24-odd years, it's just what I'm accustomed to?

If you're used to making a lot of contact with the fretboard (not the case with tall frets), one might fret a bit harder to compensate? Fuck knows. Just a personal preference, like everything.

Rob, you talk a big game for someone who can't get his head around capos- even Noel Gallagher gets that one.





Fuck, even Liam Gallagher probably does.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you use a capo effectively with tall frets?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yuh-huh.

Just get your nut, action and neck relief DIALLED THE HECK IN, else your capo or finger (fleshcapo) is likely to bend everything sharp in relation to the open string.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doog wrote:
I guess after playing vintage-style frets for 24-odd years, it's just what I'm accustomed to?

Totally with you on this to begin with Doog, I found the tall frets on my Jazzy really weird and I definitely didn’t like them after decades f playing vintage frets. Then I got used to them, and that’s mainly because played my Jazzy almost exclusively for 6 months. It still felt weird whenever I went back to it after playing another guitar though until very recently. Think I’m finally at the point where I don’t mind switching between the two...after about 7 months.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want my frets like a sitar.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Affinity strats are usually super light, and they have small necks too for those who are into vintage sized A/B Mustang necks
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just get rid of them frets.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sunshiner wrote:
Affinity strats are usually super light, and they have small necks too for those who are into vintage sized A/B Mustang necks


Yep. Had a couple early 2000s ones and they had the same profile as my old CIJ jaguar one.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't mind the tall frets myself. Don't really notice when switching guitars.

What's Fenders logic behind introducing them anyway? Like middle ground between medium jumbos and vintage style perhaps.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My nut is totally dialled in for relief action.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just weighed my three because of reasons (long story), and here's what I got:

Epiphone Les Paul SL: 2.8kg
Fender Lite Ash Tele: 3.9kg
Squier Affinity Tele: 3.4kg

Pretty much what I would have expected. I don't trust my cheapo digital scale to figure out more than one decimal place, so I've rounded.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Freddy V-C wrote:
I just weighed my three because of reasons (long story), and here's what I got:

Epiphone Les Paul SL: 2.8kg
Fender Lite Ash Tele: 3.9kg
Squier Affinity Tele: 3.4kg

Pretty much what I would have expected. I don't trust my cheapo digital scale to figure out more than one decimal place, so I've rounded.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An pound is roughly a half of a kilo. Multiply it by two
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