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riotshield · . Joined: 22 Apr 2006 Posts: 1447 Location: Athens

I was asked by my boss to suggest few guitars for his 11 year old son.

Boy likes the Les Paul design and is into playing old school rock, Scorpions, Maiden, Acdc, Metallica, etc. Budget is 1500â‚¬ max but a nice decent model with less money is also an option. A friend of the boy told him PRS are good guitars so he has an inclination.

Any suggestions for the little fella?

Bacchus · Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:34 pm Post subject:

Sell him one of your squiers, but for 1750â‚¬.
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Nick · Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:43 pm Post subject:

With that budget, if he likes the Les Paul, he should get an actual Les Paul, a new Tribute or a used Classic would be that price range. PRS might be a better made guitar than a Gibson these days but I'm not sure that will motivate him to play more if none of his favorite bands use them. I would try to find one under 8lbs so he isn't discouraged by the weight, I'm not sure about European shops, but some stores here like Sweetwater let you shop for a specific serial number by weight. I think SG would also the correct answer here but the neck dive might be a bit much for a new guitar player to need to worry about.

Nick · Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:58 pm Post subject:

The more practical option is an Epiphone Les Paul Classic or Standard and pay for a good setup. The new headstock is much closer to Gibson, the poly finish might be more durable for a kid that age, and I doubt he would hear the differences between pickups yet. The offer of a Gibson upgrade a few years down the line if he sticks with it and practices often might also be a good motivator.

Does he also need an amp and is that included in the 1500â‚¬ budget?

sunshiner · Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:18 pm Post subject:

A Harley Benton with humbuckers from Thomann, they have a PRS shape as well. Or maybe even their nifty double cut junior. That would be 200-250 euros. Pocket the rest of the money for giving great advice. A Gibson would be awesome but he's 11 and probably is going to thrash it around anyway, is it really worth it? He could learn on a cheaper guitar which nowadays are of higher quality than 10-15 years ago and buy a Gibson when he's 16 or older if he still wants one
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izodiak · . Joined: 25 Jan 2008 Posts: 1522 Location: Netherlands

He wants to play real heavy, ye ?

Wide humbucker tele, good ol' Keith style.

Or these Guild guitars have wonderful build quality if he is into the Les Paul shape.
(Ive played the Manhatan and Starfire, excelent very smooth instruments, very nice tonez, my next guitar would be Starfire I )

But now thinking without my strat I wouldnt be playing guitar at all now, the magic in the instrument, and for <1000$ You can get
awesome rockin' stratocaster.
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riotshield · . Joined: 22 Apr 2006 Posts: 1447 Location: Athens

Thanks for the suggestions.

Taking a look in Thomann website I have narrowed down the selection to these three options (he wants a black guitar)

Hagstrom Ultra Max
https://m.thomann.de/gr/hagstrom_ultra_max_black_satin.htm?o=27&search=1602606679

Schecter solo II
https://m.thomann.de/gr/schecter_solo_ii_custom_absn.htm?o=52&search=1602606679

Gibson LP Studio

https://m.thomann.de/gr/gibson_les_paul_studio_eb.htm?o=59&search=1602606679

If it was my choice I would go with Hagstrom, taking into account the price. I am quite convinced it might be a better guitar even without factoring in the price.
But as a kid who is not able to distinguish different sounds but at the same time going in a brat school, meaning he wants to show off a branded guitar to his friends, maybe he should just get the Gibson and be happy with it.

Do you have any opinions on the three above models?

gusman2x · Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:21 pm Post subject:

Only one of those listed is a Gibson. Thatâ€™s what he should get.
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Nick · Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:56 pm Post subject:

dezb1 · Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:03 am Post subject:

Tell him and his spoiled brat son to fuck off... â‚¬1500 for a guitar for an 11 year old!?
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kingkiller · Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:10 am Post subject:

Nick · Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:11 am Post subject:

https://www.guitarcenter.com/Epiphone/Les-Paul-SL-Electric-Guitar-Ebony-1500000137035.gc?cntry=us&source=4WWRWXGP&gclid=Cj0KCQjwoJX8BRCZARIsAEWBFMITC89HyPCRphSfFRzETRKRHLnpvXPHXAgz6oRAZxzZK2Yr9DJynEYaAv87EALw_wcB
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robroe · Bon Jovi Fan Club!!1 Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 49146

1500 ES FOR A 11 YEAR OLD?

kingkiller · Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:30 am Post subject:

To avoid further dunking on finances or lack thereof, I think the Epiphone route is better, as that does leave enough room for a decent amp if he needs one.
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robroe · Bon Jovi Fan Club!!1 Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 49146

11 year olds and 60 year olds have the same guitar needs.

GIBSON OR GTFO.

IS THAT A SQUIER ? WHAT A PICE OF FUCKIN SHIT

Nick · Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:42 am Post subject:

sunshiner · Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:20 am Post subject:

Yeah, let the dad know that the kid will need an amp. Like many non guitarists he might be thinking that toan comes straight out of the guitar, so they might reconsider the way they want to spend their budget
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sunshiner · Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:26 am Post subject:

Buy them a Marshal stack
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mickie08 · . Joined: 14 Aug 2006 Posts: 6160 Location: Carlsbad, Ca

If it was across the pond here in the US I might be able to hook you up with an Eastman SB model. They put most off the rack Gibsons to shame. I have an artist deal with them and I can not say enough about their quality. I have had an SB59V and a 386 (LP and 335 copy)Currently ordering a SB55dc when they come in over here.
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NickD · Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:27 am Post subject:

For the kind of music he likes, and if the LP shape is his favourite then a Les Paul Tribute could be got for 1k and the rest for a decent Marshall.

On the money side, Dad better be pretty sure the kid is really interested in playing - there was someone at my school who had a LP Standard and just left it in the music rooms for other people to play because he wasn't really interested.

Edit - A used LP Tribute - new would be a bit much. Also, if he likes the idea of a PRS then a singlecut could be an option as its their version of a LP. They are a bit soulless but well made.