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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What NickD said, though there's something special about being the first owner too.

When I was at school there was a kid I didn't know (he was 13, we were 17) whose Gran bought him a Gibson LP gold top. We were pretty much "he won't know what to do with it" but it was her money.. '72 gold top hmmmmm...
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Such a wonderful granny though. It pains me to think how she spent her savings to buy something good for her grandson
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NickS wrote:
What NickD said, though there's something special about being the first owner too.

When I was at school there was a kid I didn't know (he was 13, we were 17) whose Gran bought him a Gibson LP gold top. We were pretty much "he won't know what to do with it" but it was her money.. '72 gold top hmmmmm...


That must have been a fair bit of change! I’m sure it must’ve been a nice looking guitar (although to be fair when it comes to 70’s Gibsons, I’ve always been much more partial to all of the lawsuit ripoffs than the real deal themselves)

All this to say: I can’t wait to buy my hypothetical children expensive gear they won’t necessarily appreciate lol
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sunshiner wrote:
Such a wonderful granny though. It pains me to think how she spent her savings to buy something good for her grandson


I did some (very quick and rough) math on how much that guitar costs: I found a couple sources that said a Les Paul was anywhere from $750-$1000 in the 70s (using round numbers because it’s more just about the estimate) and in USD in 2020, a $750 guitar would cost around $5,030. Wonderful granny indeed
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, that's way too much. That kid got even bigger gifts than the one in question here
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Continuing off topic, at the time (1972) I think Yardley's Music in Plymouth, Devon, was selling Les Paul's for around £400 - £450 and Strats for around £280, IIRC. ISTR a couple of years earlier it was £350 and £250.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This back in the days of cheap Offsets?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'll weigh-in with recommending to not necessarily get the cheapest thing laying around as it needs to be relatively comfortable to play. i've long felt half the reason people give up guitar is poorly crafted/setup instruments unnecessarily hurting their hands and fingers. guitar is hard enough to stretch into without shite builds muddying the water.

unless we're talking really small hands, i don't think shortscales are a must-have, tho, for beginners. i mostly learned on a yamaha acoustic and a strat. *shrug*
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yeah, let the dad know that the kid will need an amp. Like many non guitarists he might be thinking that toan comes straight out of the guitar, so they might reconsider the way they want to spend their budget


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get him a black SG and a JCM800

Then he can start a 2003 revival warp tour band and bang and endless supply of chicks with tattoos and tube tops
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dots wrote:
i'll weigh-in with recommending to not necessarily get the cheapest thing laying around as it needs to be relatively comfortable to play. i've long felt half the reason people give up guitar is poorly crafted/setup instruments unnecessarily hurting their hands and fingers. guitar is hard enough to stretch into without shite builds muddying the water.

unless we're talking really small hands, i don't think shortscales are a must-have, tho, for beginners. i mostly learned on a yamaha acoustic and a strat. *shrug*


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the (hugely off-topic) feeback. You can always trust shortscale for not judging







Just for reference, boy has a 2000€ parrot.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

great! tell him to by me a '70 orange comp stang!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dots wrote:
great! tell him to by me a '70 orange comp stang!


The parrot?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sure, if he's got the cash.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noirie. wrote:
This back in the days of cheap Offsets?
I think it was in the days when only Strats and Teles were just about the only Fenders sold new in the UK.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im waiting for the pic' with guitar in his hands !
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NickS wrote:
Noirie. wrote:
This back in the days of cheap Offsets?
I think it was in the days when only Strats and Teles were just about the only Fenders sold new in the UK.


I don’t think offsets were ever truly cheap in the UK. A Japanese JM was several hundred in the early 90s, and the magazines I have from that time have the vintage ones at £800-£1000.
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