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Blazin420ChronicSkunk .


Joined: 08 Aug 2006 Posts: 53 Location: Pasadena, CA
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:18 am Post subject: Pro-Tools. |
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I'm looking into buying a computer, probably a Mac Laptop of some sort, and ProTools. I don't know shit about either though, and was wondering what you guys recommend. I want to be able to make good qaulity recordings, but not spend too much money. _________________ http://www.myspace.com/sonicbloomtheband
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theshadowofseattle THE TAMPA BAY HERO

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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:26 am Post subject: |
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Pro Tools requires a separate hardware interface, doesn't it? _________________
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Blazin420ChronicSkunk .


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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:40 am Post subject: |
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If so, I will get it. I guess that's probably part of my question too, what do I need? _________________ http://www.myspace.com/sonicbloomtheband
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James Nutmeg

Joined: 13 Jul 2006 Posts: 10645 Location: Boxingham Palace
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:49 am Post subject: |
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This is probably a bit out dated, but as basic overview.
To run pro tools you need an external interface. For a long time Digidesign made them exclusively, but now you can buy something M Audio and use that.
Your options extend to (prices are way off, but just to show the relative prices)...
Mbox (?300)
Digi001 (discountinued, and doesnt work with later than about Pro Tools 6.7)
Digi002 (?1000)
Or, if you want to go balls to the wall professional
HD(?20,000+)
Mbox only has 2 inputs, so if you want to record more than 2 things at once, you should look at a digi002. If you can stretch to the funds, you should do that anyway, its quite a bit better, and can record at higher resolution.
With a 002, you can record 8 (i think) at once, and you can use an SPDIF input to make this 16 (you would need something with 8 preamps on to do this, say an ADAT machine).
Pro Tools is a great piece of software, and I highly recommend it. If you've only used Stienberg products before (nuendo or cubase) it'll be like the first time you used broadband after years of dialup (once you get used to the change i guess). _________________ Shabba. |
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Blazin420ChronicSkunk .


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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:03 am Post subject: |
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Where do I buy this stuff, I'm not seeing any of it on music123...or I'm just confused. _________________ http://www.myspace.com/sonicbloomtheband
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James Nutmeg

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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:07 am Post subject: |
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You also want Pro Tools LE, which is basically the version that everything but HD uses.
MF link
I've never used an MBox 2, but i've used an MBox an awful lot, and theyre pretty decent. _________________ Shabba. |
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More Cowbell .

Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 6206 Location: Jefferson, GA
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:11 am Post subject: |
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Protools FTW!
its real easy to use, and there is ton of help on digidesigns website and thier answerbase is the shit. |
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Sloan Sexy Predator

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Al_ .


Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 510230 Location: Vista, CA
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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Protools won't necessarily sound any better than other products--it's all in the interface (mic pres/converters). The stock mic pres and converters in the mbox and 002 are decent but not great. |
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More Cowbell .

Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 6206 Location: Jefferson, GA
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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Also keep in mind that just about every major studio in the world uses protools for something, so if you record some kool as shit at your house before your band goes to a studio for a recording session, you can bring the file with you and use it in the studio. |
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Blazin420ChronicSkunk .


Joined: 08 Aug 2006 Posts: 53 Location: Pasadena, CA
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the help guys. I'm probably going to get the M-box. _________________ http://www.myspace.com/sonicbloomtheband
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paul_ .


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my friend has the mbox and my brother has one too, they're cool. _________________
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Jesse Neat

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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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If you can, track down an old MBox as opposed to one of the 2's. The clock in the 2's isn't as reliable.
In fact, just get a Digi002 or a Tango!  _________________ I see things and do stuff |
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vivadeluxxe .


Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 1288 Location: Manchester
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:11 am Post subject: Re: Pro-Tools. |
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Blazin420ChronicSkunk wrote: |
I'm looking into buying a computer, probably a Mac Laptop of some sort, and ProTools. I don't know shit about either though, and was wondering what you guys recommend. I want to be able to make good qaulity recordings, but not spend too much money. |
If your gonna be buying a mac and you don't know an awful lot about digital recording I'd save your money, buy a decent firewire audio interface and use Garageband, it's got more than enough for your needs. It's a stripped down version of Apple Logic, so the sound quality and plug-ins are very good...
For home recording Pro Tools dos'nt perform any better than any other audio sequencer, it's only Pro Tool's high end stuff that's worth getting excited about... _________________ http://vivadeluxxe.bandcamp.com/ |
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James Nutmeg

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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:34 am Post subject: |
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I'd be tempted to say that the software interface is reason enough to go with Pro Tools, but then i havent used logic quite enough to make that a definite opinion. The PT one is bad ass though. _________________ Shabba. |
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a66jagdream .

Joined: 28 Apr 2006 Posts: 176 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:43 am Post subject: |
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I use garageband and a line6 toneport, and its great! |
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vivadeluxxe .


Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 1288 Location: Manchester
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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bob wrote: |
I'd be tempted to say that the software interface is reason enough to go with Pro Tools, but then i havent used logic quite enough to make that a definite opinion. The PT one is bad ass though. |
Yeah it's good to use, altho I must say I've not used it for years, the last time I had the Pro Tools software it was on OS9...
I've spoke to loads of people who want to do recording on thier computers and want to use Pro Tools because it's 'Pro Tools', thinking it's merely just a piece of software thats better than the others, when in fact it's a intergrated audio solution for professional studios that costs thousands... _________________ http://vivadeluxxe.bandcamp.com/ |
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James Nutmeg

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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with what youre saying here. When I have the cash to get some recording gear, I'll be going with Pro Tools because I've learnt to use the interface quite well already.
Pro Tools HD is indeed bad ass though, I wish I could've used it more than I did. _________________ Shabba. |
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vivadeluxxe .


Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 1288 Location: Manchester
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah it's great. I tried out a whole rig once a few years ago at a Digidesign seminar in Manchester...
The demonstrator had somehow got hold of the original tracks of Bohemian Rhapsody and coverted them to digital audio to show off HDs features...
I had loads of fun putting Freddy Mercury's vocals through a vocoder etc
It was also kind of wierd listening back to the unmixed tracks and hearing them talking in the studio before each take...
I must say though, I couldn't actually tell any difference between 96 kHz and 192 kHz... _________________ http://vivadeluxxe.bandcamp.com/ |
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