ShortScale Forum Index
www.shortscale.org
Head 'n Neck Above
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups     RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 
UploaderUploader  

n00b needs advice

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    ShortScale Forum Index -> Guitar Projects and Tech/Set-up
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
kingkiller
LET ME BE CLEAR


Joined: 02 Jun 2017
Posts: 1543
Location: Florida->Michigan

PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 6:10 pm    Post subject: n00b needs advice Reply with quote

So I’ve decided to get off my ass and start fixing up the guitars in my collection that are broken in minor ways, or in most cases, just in pieces. I’m wanting to start with my Recco, which is a vintage Teisco model with different branding. The specifics of that aren’t important, what I’m concerned about is taking it apart, cleaning the rusted parts, rewiring and restringing the beast and hopefully having semi-functioning guitar when it’s all said and done.

(Pics related to the questions will come this evening when I’m off work)

My question(s) is/are: can I just use white vinegar to remove the rust? Am I worrying too much about potentially damaging the parts?


the fretboard seems very dry, I’m not sure what type of oil or conditioner or whatever to use.

I plan to keep the pickups as last I tested the guitar, it works (a screwdriver on the pole piece makes a noise thru an amp). Should I replace all the pots and switches? Or give them a good clean and resolder that way?

I’m also concerned I lost the bridge piece, but I have a few sneaky spots I might have hidden it


Any advice for an n00b is appreciated
_________________
Hurb wrote:
I love Jizz

Al_ wrote:
I prefer to squeeze balls.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Fakir Mustache
.
.


Joined: 25 Sep 2013
Posts: 4165

PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are various solutions for getting rid of rust, you can get them at a hardware store. Just follow the directions on the bottle.

Also various solutions for the fretboard, for example Dunlop lemon oil or Dr. Duck's Axe Wax. Guitar shops have them.

You can try cleaning the pots, just spray TV tuner cleaner in the slot on the back of the pot and keep turning it. Do it several times. If that's not enough, then you'll need to swap them.

Why did you desolder the parts?
_________________
plopswagon wrote:
my headphone amp is made out of pieces of a resonator guitar and windup victrola.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
kingkiller
LET ME BE CLEAR


Joined: 02 Jun 2017
Posts: 1543
Location: Florida->Michigan

PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fakir Mustache wrote:
There are various solutions for getting rid of rust, you can get them at a hardware store. Just follow the directions on the bottle.

Also various solutions for the fretboard, for example Dunlop lemon oil or Dr. Duck's Axe Wax. Guitar shops have them.

You can try cleaning the pots, just spray TV tuner cleaner in the slot on the back of the pot and keep turning it. Do it several times. If that's not enough, then you'll need to swap them.

Why did you desolder the parts?


Hadn’t desoldered yet, was going to take the whole thing apart and I’m anticipating needing to potentially replace the switches, as even though they work, one of the switch tips is broken
_________________
Hurb wrote:
I love Jizz

Al_ wrote:
I prefer to squeeze balls.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Bacchus
Whatever's handiest


Joined: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 21577
Location: wandering

PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, lemon oil on the fretboard. You might find yourself having to put loads on, then finding that that dislodges dirt etc, so you wipe it off, then apply more. If it's very fry basically keep applying until it stops drinking it.

I nearly always just use WD-40 on bridges etc, but then I'm not looking to restore them, just make them function well and make sure that any rust doesn't get worse. Are you trying to restore it so that it looks new?

Why are you rewiring? Changing pots won't have an audible difference unless your changing the values of them away from factory spec. I'd be inclined to clean them and use them till the break.
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Bacchus
Whatever's handiest


Joined: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 21577
Location: wandering

PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Other body gunk I usually just breath on it then wipe. Unless it's a guitar that I'm not precious about, like a school cheap strat with a definitely poly finish, and I have a dozen of them to do. Then I might use some isopropyl.
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
kingkiller
LET ME BE CLEAR


Joined: 02 Jun 2017
Posts: 1543
Location: Florida->Michigan

PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don’t want it to look brand new, but this thing was fairly neglected by both its previous and current owner, so I’d just like to get the majority of it off. The body isn’t in too terrible of shape and will be easier to clean.
_________________
Hurb wrote:
I love Jizz

Al_ wrote:
I prefer to squeeze balls.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
kingkiller
LET ME BE CLEAR


Joined: 02 Jun 2017
Posts: 1543
Location: Florida->Michigan

PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some before pics to both hold myself accountable and to show (hopefully) how far it’ll come. Unfortunately, it seems I’ve lost both the bridge and the reverb handle. I didn’t plan on using the latter much, but the former is very necessary. I’ve seen some replacements for cheap but I’ve also seen tune-o-matic types used, so maybe I’ll look into converting it. (Pardon the messy floors, various guitars and boxes that were laying around are no longer just laying around Laughing )








_________________
Hurb wrote:
I love Jizz

Al_ wrote:
I prefer to squeeze balls.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
sunshiner
.
.


Joined: 02 Nov 2012
Posts: 5382
Location: Around the corner

PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always liked that some Teiscos had these nice looking mahogany necks. Love how yours looks
_________________
matte30is wrote:
Someone man up and get a balloon.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
kingkiller
LET ME BE CLEAR


Joined: 02 Jun 2017
Posts: 1543
Location: Florida->Michigan

PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sunshiner wrote:
I've always liked that some Teiscos had these nice looking mahogany necks. Love how yours looks


I promise it’ll look better once I condition the fretboard Laughing
_________________
Hurb wrote:
I love Jizz

Al_ wrote:
I prefer to squeeze balls.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
dots
BADmin


Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Posts: 1017320
Location: on the move

PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was expecting way worse from what you described, and i don't think it should take much to clean up what you can.

i'd say try all the suggestions made so far and then reevaluate how it's working. it may turn out that the pots and tuners, for example work exactly how you need them to once the rust is gone. it may also turn out the ratios on them aren't meeting your expectations, but you won't know until they're restored as much as they can be.

all that aside, the guitar looks really cool. it will shine up super nice with not all that much TLC. can't wait to see it!
_________________
Check out Runway Runaway by Saturday's Child
robroe wrote:
im wearing my heart on my sleeve and my lips on my asssssssss
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
kingkiller
LET ME BE CLEAR


Joined: 02 Jun 2017
Posts: 1543
Location: Florida->Michigan

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moar photo poasts






All of the solder joins look okay, so idk why I was ever worried about rewiring, as many of you pointed out. I have no idea where that thought came from.




I knew that these things were made of plywood yet I was still surprised when I saw the stripes on the inside of the body rout
this thing has a surprising amount of space under the guard. Probably couldn’t fit humbuckers…maybe I’ll find out some other time.


One of the pickguard screws fully broke during disassembly, but I’m not going to bother drilling the out, mostly for lack of a drill Laughing
_________________
Hurb wrote:
I love Jizz

Al_ wrote:
I prefer to squeeze balls.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
dots
BADmin


Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Posts: 1017320
Location: on the move

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rad! that guitar is going to be a stunner when you get it dialed in. even those tuners look like they'll have some life (the first photos had me worried).

i think a drill is definitely the easiest way to get that broken screw out, but maybe someone here knows of some other macgyver wizardry to pull it off?
_________________
Check out Runway Runaway by Saturday's Child
robroe wrote:
im wearing my heart on my sleeve and my lips on my asssssssss
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Bacchus
Whatever's handiest


Joined: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 21577
Location: wandering

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, this looks exactly like a guitar that looks a bit rough now, but will clean up lovely.
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
plopswagon
.
.


Joined: 18 Jan 2007
Posts: 13971
Location: Behind you. Don't turn around

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, will be sweet. I have a Teisco tulip style design on the drawing board I’ve been thinking about.
_________________
theshadowofseattle wrote:
Happy birthday dot


Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
kingkiller
LET ME BE CLEAR


Joined: 02 Jun 2017
Posts: 1543
Location: Florida->Michigan

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dots wrote:
rad! that guitar is going to be a stunner when you get it dialed in. even those tuners look like they'll have some life (the first photos had me worried).

i think a drill is definitely the easiest way to get that broken screw out, but maybe someone here knows of some other macgyver wizardry to pull it off?


I mean I have a few beers that could take one for the team, but I could also just glue the broken screw head into the pickguard (not the hole in the body) so that it covers it, but if this thing ends up missing one guard screw I’m not too bothered.
_________________
Hurb wrote:
I love Jizz

Al_ wrote:
I prefer to squeeze balls.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
dots
BADmin


Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Posts: 1017320
Location: on the move

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you had me at "a few beers" <3
_________________
Check out Runway Runaway by Saturday's Child
robroe wrote:
im wearing my heart on my sleeve and my lips on my asssssssss
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    ShortScale Forum Index -> Guitar Projects and Tech/Set-up All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1


Powered by phpBB 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

Anti Bot Question MOD - phpBB MOD against Spam Bots
Blocked registrations / posts: 752741 / 0