N(O)GD - Ibanez Roadstar II

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N(O)GD - Ibanez Roadstar II

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The "O" for "old", and not just because it's old. I'm getting my old guitar. Story time.

As a kid just getting into working on guitars, a mentor had a high end Ibanez Roadstar II. I loved it. My parents knew that, and I got one as a surprise Christmas gift.

It is---or at least was---an RS110 model. Almost as basic as it gets. Single bridge humbucker. No switches, just a push/push coil split on the volume pot. Not worth much even today, but actually quite rare, only made in 1985, according to the serial number. I honestly don't know, because they're not in any of the catalogs I've found.

Adult me says, that's awesome, rock it. Kid me was like yeahhh, I wouldn't have gone for that and I'm gonna change it. It became a learning platform. I borrowed a router, gave the body the swimming pool treatment, hacked up the original pickguard for a neck humbucker, and so it went. It had many, many phases. (I'm looking for pictures of all of them just for fun.)

Roughly a decade later, I sold it when I had a lot of debt and desperately needed help paying bills. Wasn't long before I regretted that, even though I didn't play it much anymore.

Fast forward to last week. That mentor, who I haven't talked to in years, reached out to me, wondering if I still had it. I started to say no, and explain why, but that I do keep an eye out for Roadstars now and then.

So I went to Reverb just out of curiosity. Nothing worth my money...except then WAIT WHAT there's my old guitar! Instantly recognizable because of the last mod I did to it. Shock.

I had wanted to do something different and bought a loaded pickguard assembly from an RS135, which was a short-lived Strat competitor. The pickups were red, so I tried spraying them black to match the body. Masking tape fell over onto the tops, and when I peeled it off, there you have it.

At the time I felt like, that's an appropriately 80s look, so I left it. Apparently everyone who's owned it since then did, too. Haven't decided what I'll do now. One thing is for sure, older me is not a fan of white/black/white 3-ply so I'll probably either make or buy a different pickguard. Or maybe try to get the original looking decent and go back to humbuckers. (I kept it, about to go look for it.)

Regardless, having it in my hands again is surreal. Sometimes things from your past find their way back to you and it's good. It'll never be worth much to anyone but me, but that makes it all the more valuable in a different way.

Best picture I could find of how it would've been originally (no pictures of my own from back then), compared to how it is now.

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Re: N(O)GD - Ibanez Roadstar II

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That is awesome, what are the odds?!?
I love the Blazer necks and the body shapes, a really stylish update on the classics. I have an RB630 bass to restore from the same year, wonderful to play.
What kinda bucker would you give it, if you find the guard? I’d be tempted to do one of those P90 style or a Surf 90 / Dream 90 maybe.
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Love it.
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Bacchus wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 8:17 pmLove it.
Indeed. Brilliant that it found its way back to you.
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MattK wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 6:36 pm What kinda bucker would you give it, if you find the guard? I’d be tempted to do one of those P90 style or a Surf 90 / Dream 90 maybe.
I was thinking something with a split pole WRHB look. And I found the original pickguard. But...

I took this one off and remembered, oh hell, to make that fit, young me had to route it even further than kid me did. The original pickguard will never fit again. Looking at the comparison pictures in the first post you can see the RS135 pickguard extends a lot further. Stupid young me.

In this first picture you can also see silver Sharpie where the route was planned to be, before realizing, wait, that's too far. Messy.

Seems that one of the screw holes was destroyed in that process, so I glued a dowel rod in to hopefully fix that.
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Other things are coming back to me...when I got this pickguard assembly it wasn't complete. Both the 5-way switch and the phase switch were missing. Those came from my parts bin and the phase switch is an on/off/on which I never got working right. It should be on/on; phase reversed or not. I'll fix that later.

Also, I wrote that "N" on the neck pickup, since they were completely removed for painting.

These pickups are interesting. They look like ones I've seen on cheap Strat copies, but they're injection molded into the cover. The 1985 Ibanez USA catalog says it's a Super 5. "The Super 5, a traditional molded pickup with six exposed pole pieces is cast inside to create a smooth, sharp tone". That's...confusing? They were only made for '84 and '85 and there's not a whole lot of info out there.

But they are single coils, and they are a bit noisy. Looks like I started working on fixing that by giving the pickguard the poor man's shielding. With that hole in the cavity exposing the claw/springs---which I don't think I made---I suppose it'll need some copper shielding tape or something else heavy duty.

But first I'm working on fixing some nasty damage on the butt. I remember a paint chip where the strap button goes. But it wasn't awful and clearly has been dropped at least once since I last saw it. That strap button was basically useless. I have some experience with finish repair, but nothing this big so we'll see how it goes.
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If you’re repairing a big finish hole at the tail, you may as well plug the extra routing and repair that too …
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Haha, I don't think I was anticipating the swimming pool route to be quite so swimming pooley.
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I remember you having this, I think at the same time I had my Blazer, congrats on finding it again!
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Reminds me that I found our old Volvo 240 on Facebook marketplace the other day.
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Bacchus wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 12:06 pm Haha, I don't think I was anticipating the swimming pool route to be quite so swimming pooley.
:lol: As I recall, from the factory it was routed only for the bridge pickup. I had no templates or anything else to do a proper route for a middle or neck pickup. I'm convinced the hole exposing the claw / springs wasn't my doing, but I can't find pictures to prove it.

I did find a handful of pictures of its various phases, though. Most from a time when 800x600 would've looked huge on the web.

This was my first attempt at making a pickguard. Still have it, as well as the EMGs that are in it. Looks a lot better in this picture than it does in person.

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I got tired of the EMGs and went back to the original pickguard. My favorite look, now.

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But at some point it wasn't, so I spray painted it. And put a Carvin neck on. Look at that mess, good god what is wrong with you boy! I think I was 22 at the time.

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It stayed like that until I decided to put the Carvin neck on another project and bought the pickguard it has now.

Speaking of...I couldn't find anywhere I'd trust to do a good job of making a replica. But coincidentally, guess what popped up for sale while searching? Should be here in a few days. I think it's gonna go perfectly with those pickups.

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And! While researching, I found that a couple (previously unknown) knobs I got long ago actually belong on a Roadstar. It's all coming together. Except for the rest of the guitar at the moment :)

This first picture is from a Reverb listing, but you can see it in the 1984 USA catalog too.

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