1959 Burst:The Movie!

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Mike wrote: It's sort of sad to suggest that no Les Paul manufactured since is somehow not great and not as genuine as the real deal.
I don't think most serious people suggest that at all.
Why is there only fuss over this one year, with these few guitars then? What about the 60s ones?
All the bursts are collectable. A 1958 or a 1960 is worth a boat too. So are most goldtops and customs for that matter but the bursts are the most collectable. They discontinued the Les Paul guitar because it was a poor seller and replaced it with the Les Paul SG. They started making them again in 1968-9 this is why you don't here more about 60's Les Paul because they made the burst in 1960 stopped making them until 1968-1969 when they brought back the customs and deluxe models in full force.

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The 1959 was popular with a lot of the british blues guys because it had bigger fret wire than a 1958 and they used to do a lot of bending. Also there were more 59's than any other year because a lot of the 58's were gold tops.
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yikes. why would you take that out in the rain?
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That color is so god damn perfect.
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'58s had small frets and thick neck, '60s had Slim necks and jumbo frets. The '59 was the easiest to bend on, and the Deluxes weren't thought of too highly, then we get into Norlin... There really weren't LPs just like the '59 ones for a long ass time, and you still have to pay a lot for one just like one (reissues). It's an old fashioned profile, they've always had slimmer, more tapered necks in the "standard" line.
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Fair enough, I knew it was discontinued, I just didn't know it was right after 1960.

Surely people should be going apeshite for the late 60s ones also?
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Justin J wrote:yikes. why would you take that out in the rain?
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Mike wrote:Fair enough, I knew it was discontinued, I just didn't know it was right after 1960.

Surely people should be going apeshite for the late 60s ones also?
Do people go as crazy about a Strat or Tele from 1969 as one from 1959. It's not a straight comparison but for the most part you see that the late 60's stuff while collectable is not as expensive as the 50's stuff which is astronomical.
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I suppose, I don't really understand the Stratocaster and Telecaster market either though, I don't think an early run Telecaster is going to be far superior to one once they knew what they were doing.
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didn't quite a few japanese companies pick up 59 les pauls to make clones?
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finboy wrote:didn't quite a few japanese companies pick up 59 les pauls to make clones?
nope. never happened
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Mike wrote:I suppose, I don't really understand the Stratocaster and Telecaster market either though, I don't think an early run Telecaster is going to be far superior to one once they knew what they were doing.
Well you know once you start talking about worth and value these are concepts that exist mostly in people's minds.
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True enough. It's just.. like.. $400,000 dollars, I mean - that is a life changing sum of money.
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Interesting vids

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i wish i knew japanese. it looks like he's switching between a real les paul and a high-end navigator copy:
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also, if you're interested in this sort of thing, here is a four-part series from a guy who collects les pauls.
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jcyphe wrote:
Mike wrote:
jcyphe wrote: I don't think most serious people suggest that at all.
Why is there only fuss over this one year, with these few guitars then? What about the 60s ones?
All the bursts are collectable. A 1958 or a 1960 is worth a boat too. So are most goldtops and customs for that matter but the bursts are the most collectable. They discontinued the Les Paul guitar because it was a poor seller and replaced it with the Les Paul SG. They started making them again in 1968-9 this is why you don't here more about 60's Les Paul because they made the burst in 1960 stopped making them until 1968-1969 when they brought back the customs and deluxe models in full force.

http://www.provide.net/~cfh/lpsun.html

The 1959 was popular with a lot of the british blues guys because it had bigger fret wire than a 1958 and they used to do a lot of bending. Also there were more 59's than any other year because a lot of the 58's were gold tops.
Also wasn't '59 the last year with the original neck? They changed the neck profile, which is actually very popular as well, but the '59 was the last of a breed, with regards to it's particular configuration.