Fender Flame

[Joey]

I'm picking up a Fender Flame tonight for $200. Made in Japan, only made for a year 83/84. Pretty rare guitar, only 400 - 500 made. Any idea if these were made by the same "lawsuit Ibanez les paul" people?

ebay $2300


ebay $1200


paid $200 for this, crackhead put a Jaguar tremolo on it.

[Zack]

what an awful trem route.

pretty amazing deal for a rare guitar. Pretty bummed about that wood-wound, are you gonna patch it up or put the trem back on it?

[dub]

Block and refinish (black!)?

I've never heard of it, but I looks pretty nice. I think even with the cost of restoration, you'd still come out with a quality guitar for cheaps.

Assuming its well made.

[Justin J]

being fender japan, it was probably made in the fuji-gen factory who also made greco guitars. in other words, it's probably an excellent guitar.

[Joey]

Alder Back
Maple Top
24 3/4" Scale
Schaller pickups & hardware (including strap locks)
Tobacco Burst

The name on the headstock says "Fender"... it feels and plays like a Fender. I thought it'd take some time to get used to the neck & scale, it wasn't an issue same great feel as my Jagstang... even better actually. Stock Schaller pickups sounded great, I'm keeping them in. She sports cool "F" knobs. Knobs & switch feel like they are in the right place to me, could come forward a little bit but I prefer my switches on the bottom and away. Finish is tobacco, great shape for a 25 year old guitar. Belly contour, carved maple top. Body binding & neck binding. Cool headstock shape & logo.

I like that it came stock with strap locks. The bridge appears to a roller, with adjustable string spacing..... will check again, can't see sh*t with these contacts in my eyes. When I was playing, my thumb slipped and hit the strings... I stopped "did I knock it out of tune".... hell nah, tuners hold great. They feel weird when tuning, I dunno if it's the lighter string gauge or quality, I don't feel like I'm torquing down a scerwdriver. I love 3/3 headstock tuners. Jack is flushed on bottom, I like.

Con's
1. The first owner was a dumbass
2. The first owner was a retart
3. Hole in guitar
4. Where is the fucking block inlay assholes!
5. I want a tremolo

I have some reranch tobacco burst so I'll refinish the entire top most likely, I dunno yet (spot repair?). I've got to get some maple to fill in the hole. Not planning on repairing it any time soon. Will cover up hole with a Jaguar tremolo for the time being. Clean all pots, tighten up the jack contacts. Shield the guitar.... I dunno will add more later, to tired to think. Just got her home at 10pm from a blues club in downtown Atlanta for $200. Honestly would of paid $400 - $500 with the hole in it. I felt stupid driving there and thinking $200 for a guitar with a hole in it! After playing it, "I can't believe I stole this guitar for $200". She put my $600+ Jagstang to shame.

[dots]

my toronado was 24.75" (gibson scale), and it felt fender all the way. really miss that guitar.

[Fran]

Love the knobs, i had them on a MIJ Contemporary Strat. This will make a great guitar Joey.

[Joey]

slapped a tremolo on her to cover the hole... will post some better photo's tomorrow when I get my hands on a better cam

[dezb1]

what that needs is a kaoss pad in the hole, Matt Belamy style



(only joking)

[analogsystem]

You could put some crazy shit in there like Jerry Garcia did with his active electronic control panel....though I think the best plan would be to drop a few hundred to fill in the hole and refinish the top in a solid color.

That guitar is BADASS! What a great score!

[Joey]

the more I research the guitar the more cool stuff i find... it was only offered for a year, had a brother Esprit, it too was discontinued and brought back as the Robbon Ford Sig. Guitar, still offered in Fender Custom Shop today

Blues/Jazz guitarist Robben Ford merges styles to redefine the term “fusion� music. His sound, delivery and conception are all his own – as unmistakable and personal as a fingerprint. He chose a deliberate reinterpretation of the unusual Fender Esprit Ultra as the basis for his signature instrument (the Fender Robben Ford Signature model), which reflects Robben’s discriminating and diverse as both a soloist and rhythm player.

Designed in the mid-1980’s, the Esprit effectively reconciled the differences between a blues, jazz and rock guitar, making it ideal for Robben’s varied musical tangents. He was originally drawn to the smaller body size, double-cutaway comfort and remarkable playability of the Esprit as an alternative to the larger, honky-sounding semi-hollow-body he had been playing. Though the Esprit was discontinued by the late 1980’s, Robben remained an ardent user.

The History of the “Master Series� (by Gary Koehler) is as follows;

Approximately 25 years ago, Dan Smith had an idea. He conceptualized a solidbody guitar with routed chambers. These chambers would, in theory, provide a more resonant tonal characteristic. He also formulated and designed a basic shape for the guitar.

Then, in the early 1980s, Fender became interested in producing and marketing instruments which would be viewed as alternatives to those offered by Gibson. These guitars would not be copies, of course, but highly playable guitars with versatile electronics and other features previously unavailable on instruments manufactured by Fender. The company asked Smith to submit a concept, and what followed was an adventurous effort to produce a new line of guitars unique to the Fender’s catalog. The line was called the Master Series.

Two of Smith’s designs were solidified – the Flame and the Esprit (pronounced espree). Both featured alder bodies with routed tone chambers, maple tops, and set-in necks.

The Flame’s body is slightly larger than a Gibson Les Paul, and features two slightly offset cutaways, similar to Gibson’s SG. Two special-design humbucking pickups were developed via Schaller, as was a tailpiece with fine-tuners. The intention was to offer an electronically versatile alternative to the Gibson Les Paul.

The Esprit’s body is slightly larger than the Flame’s, and features two symmetrical cutaways. As with the Flame, two special-design Schaller humbuckers were employed in conjunction with the fine-tuning tailpiece. This instrument was intended as an alternative to the Gibson ES-335.

A third model was an archtop designed by the late James D’Aquisto. His design included some imaginative, versatile features and stands as a testament to D’Aquisto’s creativity as a luthier.

These three designs were marketed together as the Fender Master Series.

Once designs were approved, the company turned its attention to issues of manufacturing and production. Fender decided that, at that time, it did not possess the technology to build the instruments. The Japanese company Fujigen Gakki (which served as an Ibanez facility) was contracted by Fender to manufacture the line.

Fender ultimately decided to produce three models of both types. The suffixes Standard, Elite, and Ultra were added under the headings Flame and Esprit. Standards featured dot inlays and chrome tuners. The Elites featured diamond-flake inlays and pearloid-button tuners. And the Ultras had split-block shell inlays, ebony-button tuners and gold hardware. Finish options on the Standards were limited to black, autumn sunburst, and cherry sunburst. The Elite and Ultra were also available in white or pink frost, and candy red or candy green metallic burst.

Smith said Fender offered the Kahler tremolo bridge as an option on these guitars. He recalls Fender made the modification post-production, and relatively few were shipped.

He was unable to find records indicating quantities made, but estimated that between late 1983 and 1985, a few thousand were manufactured. In retrospect, Smith feels the guitars were successful in regard to quality and public perception. The line’s downfall was the sale and subsequent transitional period experienced by Fender. In 1986, Robben Ford was brought on as an endorser of the Esprit model, then Fender reworked the production concept and dubbed the guitar the Robben Ford signature model.

In its incarnation as the Robben Ford signature model, it has retained many of the Ultra’s significant features and deluxe appointments, as specified by Robben, including the Ebony fingerboard with fancy Mother-of-Pearl split-block inlays, Ebony tuning key pegs, multiple binding on the headstock, neck and body and gold-plated hardware. The solid Alder body with a carved Spruce top and built-in acoustical tone chambers is a clever variation on the classic solid-body construction theme of mahogany and maple and is a vital component in producing the rich and consistent sustaining Robben Ford solo guitar voice.

Another is the two-humbucker pickup configuration which yields both a mellow, neck-pickup jazz sound as well as a robust, bridge-pickup blues-rock tone. The coil-splitting switch provides interesting thinner and twangier single-coil timbres ideal for rootsy rock and roll, R&B and funky rhythm comping.

Current values of these rare and collectable guitars are in the £1500-2000 range.

Truss rod cover same shape as headstock! Mine says Flame instead of Esprit, same neck/headstock

In 1983 Fender introduced its Master Series. Designed by Dan Smith, the Esprit and its sister guitar, the Flame were envisioned to be alternatives to Gibson. Built with the player in mind, these guitars would offer features and electronics not normally available on Fenders. Fender decided to build the guitars in Japan at the highly regarded Fujigenn Gakki factory. Fujigenn also made guitars for Ibanez and other builders and really was the premier manufacturer of instruments in Japan. Super quality and attention to detail. The line soldiered on until 86 when Robben Ford became an endorser for the Esprit and the guitars were then called a Robben Ford Signature. This is a great example of the original Japanese Esprits. Super quality and materials. The body is chambered and made of alder. Some folks report the tops are carved spruce, others carved maple. I would guess craved spruce thanks to its warm tone. The 24.75 inch scale 3 piece maple neck features a bound rosewood fingerboard with dot inlays. Dual Schaller made special design humbuckers dish out a variety of tones. A Schaller made roller bridge and Stopbar tailpiece team up with Fender sealed tuners for rock solid performance. The finish is black and is set off by crème binding and chrome hardware. A really top notch guitar!

This Esprit plays and sounds great. Like most Japanese built guitars of the era it has a slim and comfortable neck. The frets are good and the action is fine. The pickups sound nice and deliver a variety of tones. A nice guitar. Condition wise, this guitar shows normal wear. Light to moderate pick and clearcoat scratches. Moderate belt scratches as well as some indents and dings. Still nice looking. Comes in a hardshell case with a bunch of wacky stickers.

The Esprit is one of Fender's most versatile and unique guitars. Great for a variety of music, it impresses in tone and workmanship. Unfortunately Fender doesn't offer anything like it, the closest being the rare and expensive Robben Ford signature model. Here's a great guitar that will stand head to head with many Les Pauls, 335s, etc at a great price. BUY IT NOW and own a unique guitar!

[stewart]

A third model was an archtop designed by the late James D’Aquisto. His design included some imaginative, versatile features and stands as a testament to D’Aquisto’s creativity as a luthier.

my friend's dad has one of those ^, from the same series. it's lovely.

[DICHOTOMY]

wait so how are you getting it for 2 hundo/... drug deal?

[hotrodperlmutter]

obviously because it's butchered, and dude is a forementioned crackhead.

[Bacchus]

I'd heard of the Espirt, and I've always really liked it. This is cool.

[TheBurbz]

Shame about the hole, maybe you could refinish it black and then sell it as an original for £1500?

[jmikel17]

It's looks like westbury sg's

[James]

Shame about the hole, maybe you could refinish it black and then sell it as an original for £1500?

In other words - maybe he could rip someone off?

That's a terrible idea.

[TheBurbz]

Shame about the hole, maybe you could refinish it black and then sell it as an original for £1500?

In other words - maybe he could rip someone off?

That's a terrible idea.

I wasn't entirely serious, a refin would be nice though :/

[robert(original)]

o, my, fuk.
good way to screw up buddy, if you wanted something like that you should have bought a cv jag, or jazz. i may be a bit harsh, but c'mon!