Russian muff: Green mod worth it?

mcconnachiea · Post by **mcconnachiea** » Tue May 26, 2009 10:36 pm

I have a black russian muff that needs new pots and a battery clip and I thought I might do the 'green mod' since I have a box of resistors and capacitors lying around. Has anybody else here done this? I've heard good things about it.

Also what would it do to the value of the pedal?

Post by **Mike** » Wed May 27, 2009 7:20 am

1. If you prefer the Green Muff sound, it's worth it.
2. It will destroy the value of the pedal. Any modification always does.

avj · Post by **avj** » Wed May 27, 2009 7:24 am

The Russian Big Muffs are dirt cheap anyway, and there are probably at least a trillion of them floating around. I wouldn't much worry about the value.

Go for it, and keep us posted if only for comedy's sake.

mcconnachiea · Post by **mcconnachiea** » Wed May 27, 2009 8:41 am

@ Mike: The pots and battery clip need replacing anyway and I'm no fan of the big muff so I just want it outta here

I think I'll give it a go, I could always restore it to stock apart from the parts that need replacing

Post by **Mike** » Wed May 27, 2009 8:44 am

I'm going to just add this to the list of things you post about that you'll never do, but whatever. Have fun. There is tons of information online about what the differences in the circuit are, but if you don't know how to solder (and desolder in particular) you will not find this a simple task.

mcconnachiea · Post by **mcconnachiea** » Wed May 27, 2009 9:13 am

I can do that.
I built an electronic eggtimer when I was 12 (I'm a complete geek

) so This should be simple

avj · Post by **avj** » Wed May 27, 2009 9:22 am

Those poor fucking eggies.

luke · Post by **luke** » Wed May 27, 2009 9:24 am

mcconachiea is very "If a tree falls over in a forest and nobody's there to hear it, does it make a sound?", only it's more like "If a boy modifies a guitar, pedal, or something similar and he doesn't take any pictures, is it worth even mentioning?".

mcconnachiea · Post by **mcconnachiea** » Wed May 27, 2009 10:12 am

Malik, I was ASKING what to do and wether I should do it. And whats the point in a picture? Its just a russian muff. You won't see anything you won't have seen already

luke · Post by **luke** » Wed May 27, 2009 10:14 am

mcconnachiea wrote:Malik, I was ASKING what to do and wether I should do it. And whats the point in a picture? Its just a russian muff. You won't see anything you won't have seen already

The only proof of anything you ever talk about is a grainy picture of a Jag-Stang you posted. You've got no videos, photos of your work, no nothing.

mcconnachiea · Post by **mcconnachiea** » Wed May 27, 2009 10:51 am

Why do I need proof? Its not a court of law, its a small project on a guitar forum.

I'd just like someone to post a schematic of what I need to do

mcconnachiea · Post by **mcconnachiea** » Wed May 27, 2009 10:51 am

Why do I need proof? Its not a court of law, its a small project on a guitar forum.

I'd just like someone to post a schematic of what I need to do

Noirie. · Post by **Noirie.** » Wed May 27, 2009 10:57 am

Its a small project that not going to happen and everyone will get upset.

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Post by **Mike** » Wed May 27, 2009 10:59 am

mcconnachiea wrote:Why do I need proof? Its not a court of law, its a small project on a guitar forum.

I'd just like someone to post a schematic of what I need to do

If you are such an electronics genius surely you can do this for yourself?

Do you really need me to do the Googling for you?

mcconnachiea · Post by **mcconnachiea** » Wed May 27, 2009 11:03 am

I'm no genius but I have built a couple of things.

I have googled it but there's nothing very clear (that I've found anyway)

Post by **Mike** » Wed May 27, 2009 11:07 am

Really? Nothing clear?

Nothing like if you google Big Muff Versions the very first link is this page which contains the schematics for both the Black Big Muff and the Green Big Muff.

IMAGINE. THAT.

It even includes this piece of text, which actually tells you the difference between the two versions

Differences with the green russian are insignificant, just three resistor values. The one that sets the minimum sustain passes from 1k in the green russian to 10k in the black reissue. The 20k resistor in the tonestack is now 22k, and the resistor to ground in the last trannie was 2k and now is 2k7.

Holy. Crap.

mcconnachiea · Post by **mcconnachiea** » Wed May 27, 2009 11:18 am

Thanks, mike! I googles something else, but I'll probably get this done within the next 24 hours.

Post by **Mike** » Wed May 27, 2009 11:19 am

What did you google?

"I really like wasting people's time", perchance?

mcconnachiea · Post by **mcconnachiea** » Wed May 27, 2009 11:28 am

Haha, no

I googled 'russian muff green mod'

Probably wasn't the best thing to do. Anyway, I'm off to maplin in about an hour to get pots and a battery clip. I already have resistors by the ton.

I may also need to get new knobs because of different pot shafts - the stock shafts are tiny

Post by **Mike** » Wed May 27, 2009 11:31 am

Maplin don't have decent pots. Only ones with large plastic shafts you have to cut down before use.

They are shit.