M A R A U D E R S

robroe · Post by **robroe** » Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:19 pm

Doog wrote:Jim Hates Skiing

Hot Snake Johnson

westtexasred · Post by **westtexasred** » Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:59 pm

1970s JHS copy of a Gibson Marauder

"there were a lot of Gibson Marauder copies being sold under different brand names such as Avon, Cimar, ESP, Maya, Rose Morris, CSL and finally JHS (now known as Vintage & Encore)"

robroe · Post by **robroe** » Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:05 pm

robroe wrote:
Doog wrote:Jim Hates Skiing
Hot Snake Johnson

JAPES HUNG SALAMI

paul_ · Post by **paul_** » Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:08 am

Doog wrote:
paul_ wrote:
Doog wrote: Ahhh, so sick, I really liked that blue one, good to hear it sounds good plugged in too. If it had 2 pickups, I probably woulda taken it; I think the body was pretty much the same thickness as the neck
The Polaris II (bridge pickup) and III (a II with a trem, I think) both had 2 pickups.

The neck is probably thicker than the body, to be honest. The strings are way high over the pickguard and the neck pocket on the body is the thinnest bit of wood on the whole thing (thinner than the headstock).

plopswagon · Post by **plopswagon** » Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:34 pm

westtexasred wrote:1970s JHS copy of a Gibson Marauder

"there were a lot of Gibson Marauder copies being sold under different brand names such as Avon, Cimar, ESP, Maya, Rose Morris, CSL and finally JHS (now known as Vintage & Encore)"

Why are the two on the right so much smaller than the one on the left?

sunshiner · Post by **sunshiner** » Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:49 pm

one of the universe's unanswerable questions

Post by **Doog** » Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:06 pm

Post by **Doog** » Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:24 pm

Thinking out loud, on (free alternative to) Photoshop:

I might have to track me down another matching pickup as that looks SICK and is likely more up my alley than the huge woolly stock neckbucker...

I love how the first one with the dual angled pickups has a 'Les Paul Recording Model' vibe to it:

Fakir Mustache · Post by **Fakir Mustache** » Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:41 am

Doog wrote:Thinking out loud, on (free alternative to) Photoshop:

I might have to track me down another matching pickup as that looks SICK and is likely more up my alley than the huge woolly stock neckbucker...

It might not fit sideways (or straight) with the actual rout. Don't really know.

But a much more useful mod would be the blend control some late Marauders had.

Post by **Doog** » Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:41 am

Fakir Mustache wrote:It might not fit sideways (or straight) with the actual rout. Don't really know.

Possibly, although that Avon/Rose Morris I had years ago had a swimming pool route, and the stock neck humbucker is already way bigger than the proposed mod so it miiiiiiiight be ok?

Gonna have to play the long game on this anyways, said pickups don't pop-up often. Although, I've now got it in my head to find another Marauder, and swap pickups, so I've got a SS and a HH Marauder. BEASTLY.

(using photos of a Photoshop definitely helps helps on the uncanny valley shit a bit lol)

Would just need to get the (obviously custom) pickguard extended out a bit to cover the gooch gap by the bridge. However, that might actually be a problem with the stock route, might need to open up the pit a little.

Fakir Mustache wrote:But a much more useful mod would be the blend control some late Marauders had.

Ehhh, my Silvertone Jupiter had a stock blend pot (since unwired), and I'd leave it on one setting and never touch it again. Easier to just do that with the pickup heights and still have control over the switching.

westtexasred · Post by **westtexasred** » Sat Mar 07, 2020 4:30 pm

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Fakir Mustache · Post by **Fakir Mustache** » Sat Mar 07, 2020 5:06 pm

Doog wrote:Ehhh, my Silvertone Jupiter had a stock blend pot (since unwired), and I'd leave it on one setting and never touch it again. Easier to just do that with the pickup heights and still have control over the switching.

I find that it only works if the bridge pickup is already louder than the neck.

If they both put out around the same output, you can lower the neck pickup flat and the bridge pickup almost touching the strings and the middle position will still sound like only neck alone.

Post by **Doog** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:10 pm

Fakir Mustache wrote:I find that it only works if the bridge pickup is already louder than the neck.

If they both put out around the same output, you can lower the neck pickup flat and the bridge pickup almost touching the strings and the middle position will still sound like only neck alone.

Ehhhh well that depends how much available space you have, doesn't it?

The humbucker is twice as loud as the singlecoil in this Marauder, but the position and angle of guitar's neck allows for the bridge itself to sit quite high, giving lots of space between the strings and the pickguard, so a large range of pickup height adjustment possibilities.

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siiiiiick

c h o n k y b o i

Fakir Mustache · Post by **Fakir Mustache** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:55 pm

Doog wrote:
Fakir Mustache wrote:I find that it only works if the bridge pickup is already louder than the neck.

If they both put out around the same output, you can lower the neck pickup flat and the bridge pickup almost touching the strings and the middle position will still sound like only neck alone.
Ehhhh well that depends how much available space you have, doesn't it?

The humbucker is twice as loud as the singlecoil in this Marauder, but the position and angle of guitar's neck allows for the bridge itself to sit quite high, giving lots of space between the strings and the pickguard, so a large range of pickup height adjustment possibilities.

I doubt the humbucker is twice as loud as the single coil on the Marauder. Have you measured the resistances?

On my Vintage Modified Mustang the bridge pickup has more resistance than the neck, and I have it as high as possible, a couple of mm below the strings, the neck pickup flat with the scratchplate and the neck pickup still sounds too loud.

But I don't doubt that the Marauder bridge sits higher with normal action.

The problem is that in the neck position the strings vibrate more.

Post by **Doog** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:05 pm

Fakir Mustache wrote: I doubt the humbucker is twice as loud as the single coil on the Marauder. Have you measured the resistances?

I have not; it's just louder, okay? Yeesh.

Fakir Mustache · Post by **Fakir Mustache** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:16 pm

Doog wrote:
Fakir Mustache wrote: I doubt the humbucker is twice as loud as the single coil on the Marauder. Have you measured the resistances?
I have not; it's just louder, okay? Yeesh.

Actually you're right,

I found some info online, humbucker measures about 6K ohms,, bridge about 2.25K. Although that's not a 100% indication of output because it may vary with pickup construction.

sunshiner · Post by **sunshiner** » Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:09 pm

Doog wrote:Thinking out loud, on (free alternative to) Photoshop:

Double angled looks the best to me

Post by **Doog** » Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:51 pm

Yeah same, looks mad futuristic

Thomas · Post by **Thomas** » Fri Mar 13, 2020 1:08 pm

Shit Doog, I had one of those pickups in my parts box for years and just got rid of it last month. Bugger!

Congrats on the new guitar, it looks great! I just picked up an Epi neck for my spare Sonex body but I'm keeping it for a little quarantine project should that happen.

Post by **Doog** » Fri Mar 13, 2020 1:39 pm

Thomas wrote:Shit Doog, I had one of those pickups in my parts box for years and just got rid of it last month. Bugger!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!