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Best inexpensive sustain pedals?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 3:08 am
by Doug
I play direct into my 1997 Danelectro Honeytone (the prototype for the 1998 to 2005 Nifty Fifty). But I want sustain and am considering using a pedal...big leap for this Blues-Roots-Rocker. So I've looked at the Behringer CS400; the JOYO JF10; and the DeadBeat Sound Distortion pedals.

What other make-models are good quality at a budget price? Is it worth buying a used Electro-Harmonix Big Muff? Thanks!

Doug Pratt, Atlanta, Georgia, USA

Re: Best inexpensive sustain pedals?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 5:00 am
by Pens
I have no idea/opinion on the first two, but the Deadbeat is just a basic Big Muff clone, isn't it? EHX has put out like a ton of variants now on the BM, and it sounds like you really want the BM, so...

I've been on a pedal spree lately, and between Reverb, ebay, and Craigslist I've gotten some stuff at pretty good discounts. If I were you, and maybe I'm wrong here, but it sounds like you want the Big Muff, so get a Big Muff. Unless a clone has some gimmick that makes it stand apart, clones in my experience are often not really a good substitute for what you actually want.

Find a used Big Muff.

Re: Best inexpensive sustain pedals?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 8:05 am
by NickS
It really depends what you're trying to achieve. The CS400 is a compressor/sustainer that will maintain a clean tone. The Big Muff achieves sustain by amplifying and clipping the signal, causing distortion. I have a Marhall Ed The Compressor to do the former and other pedals to do the latter.

Re: Best inexpensive sustain pedals?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:10 am
by Doog
For more rootsy sounds, I'd personally go for something a little more "overdrivey" and less "distortiony" than that Deadbeat, if you're not going for actual clean sustain, like NickS was saying.

Are you running the amp overdriven/distorted?

Re: Best inexpensive sustain pedals?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 12:51 pm
by Bacchus
There isn't really any such thing as a "sustain" pedal. There are things that are marketed as sustain pedals such as compressors or fuzz pedals.

There was the Boss Feedbacker/Booster which I always thought was gimmicky and brilliant in equal measures.

Re: Best inexpensive sustain pedals?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:37 pm
by Pens
Bacchus wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 12:51 pm There isn't really any such thing as a "sustain" pedal. There are things that are marketed as sustain pedals such as compressors or fuzz pedals.

There was the Boss Feedbacker/Booster which I always thought was gimmicky and brilliant in equal measures.
I have two of these. First Boss pedal I ever bought, it's a DS-1, and the "feedback" feature is a weird note sampler that just generates a crazy sine tone based on a note you played. I own them purely for novelty. I don't think I'd ever actually use it for anything.

Re: Best inexpensive sustain pedals?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 2:17 pm
by Doog
Those are two (well, three) different pedals, innit:
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I still kinda want one of these, but the Digitech FreqOut does it better

Re: Best inexpensive sustain pedals?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 2:30 pm
by plopswagon
I’ve one of those orange ones somewhere.

Re: Best inexpensive sustain pedals?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 2:56 pm
by Bacchus
Doog wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 2:17 pm I still kinda want one of these, but the Digitech FreqOut does it better
Didn't know about these.

Anyway, this "class" of pedal is what I would consider a "sustain" pedal, insofar as there is such a thing.

I suppose the best, inexpensive sustain pedal is whatever cheap drive pedal you like and a fucking massive half stack cranked up.

Re: Best inexpensive sustain pedals?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 3:01 pm
by Bacchus
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Re: Best inexpensive sustain pedals?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 3:03 pm
by Gavin
When I want sustain I simply play my guitar with my violin bow.

Re: Best inexpensive sustain pedals?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 4:01 pm
by BearBoy
Use longer fingers.

Re: Best inexpensive sustain pedals?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 4:08 pm
by Doog
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Re: Best inexpensive sustain pedals?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 6:14 pm
by plopswagon

Re: Best inexpensive sustain pedals?

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:37 pm
by sunshiner
If you play through a clean solid state amp and want some passabale overdriven sounds I'd go for Boss Bluesdriver or its clones, there are some nano size Chinese clones like Donner. They all have the famous mod that boosts the low end and you can switch between the original sound and the modded one. Bluesdriver is a heavier distorting OD than your typical Tubescreamer but at the same time is not nearly as crazy(for blooz) as a Big Muff

Re: Best inexpensive sustain pedals?

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:36 pm
by Pens
A friend of mine swears by the EHX Freeze, if actual hold-note-forever is what is meant by "sustain".

I didn't know Boss went and made another "feedbacker" pedal. That's...interesting.